No more shortcuts or direct routing

[UM#1]

The FAA and the Airlines have agreed to utilize a new ATC initiative, known as the Flow Constraint Access Plan, in an effort to increase the National Airspace System (NAS) capacity during times of high volume constraints. This program
is designed to give ATC flexibility in order to avoid ATC sector saturation and reduce miles-in-trail restrictions. Beginning March 22, 2004, on days when this plan has been executed, crewmembers will be informed by remarks on their release that they should fly the route and/or altitudes as filed. Do not ask for reroutes outside of the initiative as this could place new constraints on the airspace. Data from this initiative will be collected and evaluated to help improve the National Airspace System (NAS). Your help is appreciated.
In addition, the Industry has agreed to let the Air Traffic Control System Command Center delay and reroute flights from surrounding airports when taxi out delays exceed 90 minutes at any given airport. This may affect our flights in the Chicago and New York areas, so be prepared for departure delays when a near by airport is reporting lengthy taxi delays.

 

[TR4A]

Our STATE-OF-THE-ART Air Traffic Control system.

 

[J32driver]

KA-CHING!!! Block or better BABY!!!!

 

[COEX_av8r]

The FAA and the Airlines have agreed to utilize a new ATC initiative, known as the Flow Constraint Access Plan, in an effort to increase the National Airspace System (NAS) capacity during times of high volume constraints. This program
is designed to give ATC flexibility in order to avoid ATC sector saturation and reduce miles-in-trail restrictions. Beginning March 22, 2004, on days when this plan has been executed, crewmembers will be informed by remarks on their release that they should fly the route and/or altitudes as filed. Do not ask for reroutes outside of the initiative as this could place new constraints on the airspace. Data from this initiative will be collected and evaluated to help improve the National Airspace System (NAS). Your help is appreciated.
In addition, the Industry has agreed to let the Air Traffic Control System Command Center delay and reroute flights from surrounding airports when taxi out delays exceed 90 minutes at any given airport. This may affect our flights in the Chicago and New York areas, so be prepared for departure delays when a near by airport is reporting lengthy taxi delays.

Just curious....

What's your source for this info?

 

[nimtz]

The FAA and the Airlines have agreed to utilize a new ATC initiative, known as the Flow Constraint Access Plan, in an effort to increase the National Airspace System (NAS) capacity during times of high volume constraints. This program
is designed to give ATC flexibility in order to avoid ATC sector saturation and reduce miles-in-trail restrictions. Beginning March 22, 2004, on days when this plan has been executed, crewmembers will be informed by remarks on their release that they should fly the route and/or altitudes as filed. Do not ask for reroutes outside of the initiative as this could place new constraints on the airspace. Data from this initiative will be collected and evaluated to help improve the National Airspace System (NAS). Your help is appreciated.
In addition, the Industry has agreed to let the Air Traffic Control System Command Center delay and reroute flights from surrounding airports when taxi out delays exceed 90 minutes at any given airport. This may affect our flights in the Chicago and New York areas, so be prepared for departure delays when a near by airport is reporting lengthy taxi delays.

My god the SWA guys are going to sh!t their pants in frustration.

 

[UM#1]

Re: Re: No more shortcuts or direct routing

Just curious....

What's your source for this info?

ATA flight ops..

 

[COEX_av8r]

Re: Re: Re: No more shortcuts or direct routing

ATA flight ops..

Thanks. I searched the FAA website but couldn't find anything. I wasn't sure if this was something they'd release to the public or not.

 

[SWA GUY]

<------ Commencing pant-Sh!tting!!!!
HC

 

[crashpad]

And The Award for 'Funniest Post Reply' goes to SWA GUY!!!

 

[njcapt]

Yeah, I saw that on the ATA emp web site the other day. Great, more discretion taken from our Captains. So if dispatch sends you out with a 20 mile alternate and no extra gas, you can't shorten the route up for pucker factor relief. I wonder if this new policy restricts deviations to avoid weather?

 

[AceCrackshot]

I doubt it...I sure a controller could chime in, but they seem to get a lot of latitude when it comes to weather avoidance, and if they don't give it, I usually take it. We can talk about loss of traffic separation on the phone, but convectively induced aircraft part separation is usually non-habit-forming. I would be voicing some significant objections if I didn't feel confortable with the release. I can't remember the last dispatcher killed in an airplane crash. They are involved. We're committed. Difference between involved and committed? Like the story about ham and eggs, chicken is involved, the pig is committed.

As an aside, we are getting some insane alternates at work. Two days ago we got EVV for STL, coming out of EWR. I ended up calling FSS to see what COU, SPI, SGF, and MCI were doing, and then amended our release...Evansville? WTF?

 

[J32driver]

Call FSS? Why not just call your dispatcher and tell him to pull his head out of his A S S!

 

[OPECJet]

I'm not an airline pilot, but from what I've been hearing, much authority has been taken away from the captain recently. I've heard anything from rampies that won't push a buttoned up airplane early until the clock hits zero, to rampies who won't park an airplane that is not doing a single engine taxi.

Is all this true, or just the rumor mill at work? If it is, is there anything the pilot group can do? This sounds rediculous! Especially this latest one not allowing you guys to ask for shortcuts....

 

[Huck]

but from what I've been hearing, much authority has been taken away from the captain recently.

You mean like jumpseats?

BTW, this thread reminds me of an old captain who once asked me at the beginning of a month, "You gonna cheat on the times, or am I gonna fly slow?"