No "huge payraise" planned for Options pilots

[doh]

NJASAP didn't even need to be handed a list of names. Every Flexjet pilot wears an easily identifiable uniform, wings and tie that say Flexjet, and a name tag! There was no private data and no "illegal" breach. The only "illegal" act committed was the ILLEGAL FIRING OF THREE UNION ORGANIZERS. Warlord and the yammer pukes can drama queen this all they want, but they will never file any legal action for data breach. It didn't happen.

 

[warlord19]

For ANY non-voters out there:

Today is it. If you don’t cast your vote today, you can’t complain about the outcome.

Use your head when you do vote. HELP yourselves and your family (if you are FO) by raising all your pay and benefits to our (Flex) level and help begin to re-establish a culture of mutual respect and cooperation that the UNCIVIL IBT and its lackeys have destroyed.

VOTE NO!!!!
WL

 

[Super_Cub_2414P]

Kind of funny.. but ignorant as well, wake the hell up xbox playing warlord goofball management puke, management will never respect pilots, never. Unions are a must to gain professional pilot pay and work rules.

 

[ghostrider64]

Warwussy....you lose,time to quit...we await your public announcement of applying to work at wheelsup...

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

Why would they hire him?

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

The OneSky management surrogates who are whispering this into our ears are trying to snow us, big time. Kenn has already made it crystal clear, in his video, and also in practice with the transfers, what he considers "fair and equitable". In a rehash of the old "slide to poverty" scheme, Options pilots will slide over to the Flex payscale AT THEIR CURRENT RATE. For example, a 14 year small cabin Capt. at Options will enter the new payscale at the 7year Flex rate. Don't take my word for it, do your own research and learn. I't's a lose-lose scenario for us; if OneSky wins the election, it's "slide to poverty", no significant payraise. If the 1108 wins, OneSky will of course punish the pilots by withholding any raise and blame the Union as they always do. At least we get to negotiate for higher pay if the 1108 wins, with a CBA in 9 months or it goes to arbritration, which OneSky doesn't want. If OneSky wins, we are just plain out of luck.

Good thing 1108 won. And now, the company has already started a whisper campaign with the motto "there goes our raise." If we really would have got an industry leading raise if we voted out the union, why can't we still get an industry leading raise with the union? Time will reveal the truth.

 

[realityman]

Good thing 1108 won. And now, the company has already started a whisper campaign with the motto "there goes our raise." If we really would have got an industry leading raise if we voted out the union, why can't we still get an industry leading raise with the union? Time will reveal the truth.

Bingo!

If KR really meant to keep all his promises, there is NOTHING stopping him from doing it with a unionized group.

Unless, of course, he never really meant it *GASP!*. In which case he will have demonstrated exactly why you needed a union in the first place.

 

[CA1900]

Good thing 1108 won. And now, the company has already started a whisper campaign with the motto "there goes our raise."

I went through this at my last company when we had our first union drive. "Don't bring in outsiders," they said. "We won't be able to improve the pay if you unionize." And my personal favorite, "We'll have to give up our bidding system and switch to something else if you unionize." (WTF?)

There were grand promises of "working with management," pay raises, and suggestions of an in-house "mutual interest committee" to supposedly represent the pilots. Enough pilots bought into it that the vote failed by just a few percentage points.

What happened afterwards? You can probably guess. There was no pay raise. There was no "mutual interest committee" because there was no mutual interest in anything we wanted to improve. And almost immediately after the vote failed, health care premiums went from $0 (which was somewhat offsetting the low pay) to a substantial portion of it.

In short, the whisper campaigns are there to undermine your solidarity, and to get pilots to believe that the union is a hindrance to your interests rather than your means to achieve them. They want you to get fed up with your union and vote it back out. Don't fall for it.

Management will go through their stages of grief before you'll make much headway. They're probably at "anger" right now. Once they finally realize the union isn't going anywhere, they'll hit "acceptance" and you'll be able to make headway. Until then, stay strong, and listen to your local leadership.

 

[OHGOON]

^^^^^this^^^^^^

 

[GlorifiedCabbie]

NJASAP didn't even need to be handed a list of names. Every Flexjet pilot wears an easily identifiable uniform, wings and tie that say Flexjet, and a name tag! There was no private data and no "illegal" breach. The only "illegal" act committed was the ILLEGAL FIRING OF THREE UNION ORGANIZERS. Warlord and the yammer pukes can drama queen this all they want, but they will never file any legal action for data breach. It didn't happen.

It was only a matter of time until the truth came out on this one. The company pretended they were so outraged at the "data breach" that they were going to pull out all of the stops to find the culprit. Turns out it was D. D....s and M. S.......o themselves. In their deposition, they admitted information was released thru their lawyers. Then they claimed it was the UNION's fault. They must think we are fools.