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No Delta Crossfleet Jumpseets?

Herman

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No Delta Crossfleet Jumpseats?

So apparently on Delta off line pilots are not allowed to jumpseat on crossfleet markets anymore.
Unfortunately I had to find out the hard way on my way to Europe. I know we can't sit in the flightdeck but should always be able to flow back to a cabin seat.
Does this not defeat the purpose of jumpseat agreements that airlines have with one another?
 
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PeanuckleCRJ

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Not quite sure what you mean by crossfleet markets.... you said you're Delta offline? so what would a crossfleet be?
 

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Anyone KNOW the jumpseat priorities for Pinnacle/Mesaba???
I'm hearing differing stories over the past couple weeks.

Thanks.
 

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Pinnacle get nothing cause they suck almost as much as Mesa.
 

PeanuckleCRJ

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Anyone KNOW the jumpseat priorities for Pinnacle/Mesaba???
I'm hearing differing stories over the past couple weeks.

Thanks.

Should be in your FOM jumpseat priority list/decision tree... your guess is as good as mine as to what shade of cyan, salman, pink, fuscha or whater color it may be...
 

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Had the same thing happen to me trying to get back to ATL from HNL on a NW 747/ Delta flight number. Crew did everything they could to try and get me on but I was shut down by the ticket counter and gate agent supervisors. They told me that it was only going to last 1 month and then everything would be straightened out. That was APRIL!
 

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Not quite sure what you mean by crossfleet markets.... you said you're Delta offline? so what would a crossfleet be?
Cross fleeting is a NW aircraft using a DL number booking DL pax. So, the NWA A330 ATL-LGW is flight DL812 I believe...and visa virsa...So, even though its a NW A/C the DL rules apply to pax and J/S...anyone else? Bueler...Bueler?. Seems odd but I beleive it will be fixed after SOC.
 
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PeanuckleCRJ

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Cross fleeting is a NW aircraft using a DL number booking DL pax. So, the NWA A330 ATL-LGW is flight DL812 I believe...and visa virsa...So, even though its a NW A/C the DL rules apply to pax and J/S...anyone else? Bueler...Bueler?. Seems odd but I beleive it will be fixed after SOC.

I know what a crossfleeted flight is... I was checking to see if what the poster meant in regards to that is the same as what we understand crossfleeting to be.

DL and NW have combined jumpseat rules now...

I don't see what him being an offline pilot and with it being a crossfleeted flight has to do with any issues.
 
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I guess I know what crossleet means, because it was explained to me about 20 times. To make it easier to understand: Noone can jumseet if the flight is crossfleet. Not even NWA pilots on an NWA fligh if the flight is operated by DAL. And an offline jumpseater apparently is absolutley out of the question.
 

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The EE strikes again!
 

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Should be in your FOM jumpseat priority list/decision tree... your guess is as good as mine as to what shade of cyan, salman, pink, fuscha or whater color it may be...

I was asking about the JS on Mesaba/Pinnacle aircraft. ie...what's in their FOM. I'm hearing 1st come/1st serve for everyone except their own. Is this actually what's in their FOM? Does a Mesa pilot have equal priority to a DAL-N pilot on a Pinnacle/Mesaba flight?
 

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I jumpseated on a Delta/NW flight to MKE out of MSP last week, no problem. Hell, they gave me first class. I'm an L4 pilot FWIW
 

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I know what a crossfleeted flight is... I was checking to see if what the poster meant in regards to that is the same as what we understand crossfleeting to be.
My apologies, I guess I misunderstood your question.
 

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I was asking about the JS on Mesaba/Pinnacle aircraft. ie...what's in their FOM. I'm hearing 1st come/1st serve for everyone except their own. Is this actually what's in their FOM? Does a Mesa pilot have equal priority to a DAL-N pilot on a Pinnacle/Mesaba flight?

Here is the priority for Jumpseating on Mesaba....

Priority 1
1-FAA
2-Secret Service
3-Check Airmen
Priority 2
1-Pilots and Dispatchers on Company Business
2-Mgmt
 

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I'm pretty sure the FAA only gets the #1 priority if they are on official checking business.

Of course, they always say they are, although I had one guy I really, seriously questioned coming back with his whole family from vacation using the "checking" excuse to bump one of our own.
 

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Here is the priority for Jumpseating on Mesaba....

Priority 1
1-FAA
2-Secret Service
3-Check Airmen
Priority 2
1-Pilots and Dispatchers on Company Business
2-Mgmt

I don't know why the rest didn't come through.. but here is the rest of what I originally tried to post..

Priority 3
XJ Pilots and dispatchers on personal travel

Priority 4
NWA, DAL, Compass, Comair, Pinnacle (not in any particular order) .. and then all other CASS approved airlines are in this priority level as well..
--There is a note that talks about Priority Privilege for NWA, DAL, Compass, Comair, Pinnacle that sounds to me like these 5 will come before all other CASS approved carriers until 30 minutes prior to departure.. after that, everyone is equal..

Hope this helps..
 

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I don't know why the rest didn't come through.. but here is the rest of what I originally tried to post..

Priority 3
XJ Pilots and dispatchers on personal travel

Priority 4
NWA, DAL, Compass, Comair, Pinnacle (not in any particular order) .. and then all other CASS approved airlines are in this priority level as well..
--There is a note that talks about Priority Privilege for NWA, DAL, Compass, Comair, Pinnacle that sounds to me like these 5 will come before all other CASS approved carriers until 30 minutes prior to departure.. after that, everyone is equal..

Hope this helps..

Thanks Jamis. It answers my question for XJ.

Schwanker
 

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I jumpseated on a Delta/NW flight to MKE out of MSP last week, no problem. Hell, they gave me first class. I'm an L4 pilot FWIW

By far the greatest info to go along with an avatar that I've seen. Nice work.
 
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