NJA Uniform Change

[realityman]

whatever, stay warm in your new jacket.....

It's the snappy and clever comebacks that I live for on this board!:beer:

PS- Not getting the new jacket. I'll be plenty warm in the coat we already have. Thanks for your concern!:nuts:

 

[Xcorporate]

It's the snappy and clever comebacks that I live for on this board!:beer:

PS- Not getting the new jacket. I'll be plenty warm in the coat we already have. Thanks for your concern!:nuts:

anytime. is that as clever as you get? come on now you can do better.....

 

[OPECJet]

If these guys are worried about leather jackets with nearly 500 of its "brothers" on the street you won't have to worry about recalls. How much was just spent on the italian designer coats? The more things change the more they stay the same. sad.

Erm.... I am one of the almost 500 victims. I prefer to look like a professional when / if I get a recall.

Disagree on whoever posted that dress has no reflection on professionalism.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Another vote against the leather jacket. I've worn them, froze in them, and been soaked from the waist down in them. Is the leather jacket push coming from the same group that wanted "airline hats" a few years ago?

 

[jtf]

I would have to assume that the group that wants the hats would not be caught dead in the leather jacket. I'm getting the leather jacket. If I'm too cold it isn't raining. If it is I'll use one of the 12 umbrellas I usually find in the closets. If I do get too cold I'll start bringing the LP overcoat again. I did OK my first winter at NJA with just the sweater under the blazer since the overcoat didn't get shipped until the end of April. Maybe my back hair is good for something- insulation.

 

[Mountain Troll]

Wouldn't a new leather jacket (different from normal uniform trenchcoat) and then a common color tie that can be worn by the black and the blue be a start of the pilot solidarity? If management makes NJI go back to blue or NJA to wearing black, tensions will rise. This way, small common changes are easy and help the "shotgun marriage". Of course then, I may be wrong and NJA owner is 100% accurate.

 

[Pervis]

I keep seeing reference to a hat. Any reference to a hat in the past was done in jest. No one was ever serious, at least vocally. They's never live it down.

I have a compromise for the coat. A leather trench coat, just like the gestapo many years ago. Frankly, I could care less what uniform we wear. In fact, I'd wear a clown suit if the pay was right. Whatever I'm provided, I will wear it correctly, and choose the option that is most functional and comfortable. This is really a non-issue. And you hear that from a pilot who is a poster child complainer.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

I keep seeing reference to a hat. Any reference to a hat in the past was done in jest. No one was ever serious, at least vocally. They's never live it down.

I have a compromise for the coat. A leather trench coat, just like the gestapo many years ago. Frankly, I could care less what uniform we wear. In fact, I'd wear a clown suit if the pay was right. Whatever I'm provided, I will wear it correctly, and choose the option that is most functional and comfortable. This is really a non-issue. And you hear that from a pilot who is a poster child complainer.

Leather trench coat like Neo's? I'm in!

 

[NJAowner]

Maybe the answer is a cooler looking trench coat. I can tell you that when I wear a suit and tie (even without a jacket), an overcoat style keeps me drier and warmer than a waist coast jacket. Look at Paul Stuarts catalog and I am sure you can copy something long, warm and stylish. But I also agree withthe posters who say that they'd were many things if the $$ was right (but I will draw a line somewhere).

The strange thing is that when it comes to pilots image is extremely important. If most people walked up to a jet with 2 choices (1) a starched whoite shirt with epaulets, and name tag, etc., but the pilot had 250 hours time, and (2) a t shirt, cargo shorts and flip flops but 5000 hours time, most people woulf think the pilot in uniform was more experienced. Yes it is just image, but that is important.

 

[old*art]

NJAOwner I appreciate the honest evaluation but this has always been an internal disagreement between the blue jeans/golf shirt vocal minority and the regular uniform bunch. (They even think a short sleeve white shirt is businesswear.) The blue jean bunch will be happy with nothing but the leather jacket and whatever other casual wear they can talk the company into. Safety issues with the long coat have always just been a smokescreen. Rumor has it at the union meeting this week the discussion about the new leather jacket was met with a ho hum rather than the standing ovation folks had been led to believe would be forthcoming. PM me for more on this issue.

 

[gunfyter]

The tie is a safety issue. Vulnerable to terrorists ... not to mention a PO'd F/A....:laugh:.

Motorcycle boots work well in case you have to defend the cockpit with Kung Fu.

 

[old*art]

In light of what's going down, how many of you guys are gonna be proud to wear that pay off leather jacket now ??

 

[gutshotdraw]

In light of what's going down, how many of you guys are gonna be proud to wear that pay off leather jacket now ??

And what, praytell, is "going down?"



PM me if necessary. Our info pipeline over here isn't very good.

 

[gunfyter]

In light of what's going down, how many of you guys are gonna be proud to wear that pay off leather jacket now ??

You know when you get a new leather jacket ... you need to break it in with your "colors".

Lay it out on the road and have the gang run their harley tires over it. We get Gulfstream tires run over ours instead.

 

[ozpilot]

And what, praytell, is "going down?"



PM me if necessary. Our info pipeline over here isn't very good.

Tried to send you a PM but apparently you have it turned off.

"gutshotdraw has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her."

 

[gutshotdraw]

Sorry Oz. Try again.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

NJAOwner I appreciate the honest evaluation but this has always been an internal disagreement between the blue jeans/golf shirt vocal minority and the regular uniform bunch. (They even think a short sleeve white shirt is businesswear.) The blue jean bunch will be happy with nothing but the leather jacket and whatever other casual wear they can talk the company into. Safety issues with the long coat have always just been a smokescreen. Rumor has it at the union meeting this week the discussion about the new leather jacket was met with a ho hum rather than the standing ovation folks had been led to believe would be forthcoming. PM me for more on this issue.

Well count me in on the polo and slacks crowd. Seems to work for the rest of the corporate world. I just don't see the need nor have the desire to dress like the Love Boat captain. Remember, WE'RE NOT AIRLINE PILOTS! So let's quite dressing like it.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Well count me in on the polo and slacks crowd. Seems to work for the rest of the corporate world. I just don't see the need nor have the desire to dress like the Love Boat captain. Remember, WE'RE NOT AIRLINE PILOTS! So let's quit dressing like it.

Ding! WWCD*












*Winner, winner Chicken dinner.

 

[OPECJet]

Well count me in on the polo and slacks crowd. Seems to work for the rest of the corporate world. I just don't see the need nor have the desire to dress like the Love Boat captain. Remember, WE'RE NOT AIRLINE PILOTS! So let's quite dressing like it.

Hundreds of airplanes, thousands of pilots, training / standardization dept, central dispatch, uniforms, unions, furloughed pilots, hard headed mgmt = airline.

Sorry my friend, ours is just an unscheduled one that flies little jets and takes good care of the clients.

 

[2EASYPilot]

If there is one (actually more) things I as a corporate pilot have always thought about the NetJets guys is that they looked very sharp and professional in their uniforms. Our pilots fly customers mostly and execs on occasion and we wear suits, white shirts and ties. If we were flying just Mr. Big and said to wear a thong that would be fine with me. It is all about expectations and our dress is what most customers would expect from a professional pilot that they know nothing about. I know the line about the dress does not make you a better pilot but it's a good start when I show up in the corporate whiz bang jet. Sorry no leather "top gun leather " jackets for me...cheers to all.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

Ding! WWCD*.

STRIKE ONE!

:bomb:

 

[gutshotdraw]

Naw. I've stolen it more than a dozen times....

 

[ozpilot]

Naw. I've stolen it more than a dozen times....

I've used it too. Both here and on the Union Board. You should be flattered Wolf!

 

[hyflyin]

ps, it's LOSE weight for all you professionals.

And goggles, not googles, Waldom ( "Should I bring my helmet and googles to work too?")

 

[hyflyin]

Well count me in on the polo and slacks crowd. Seems to work for the rest of the corporate world. I just don't see the need nor have the desire to dress like the Love Boat captain. Remember, WE'RE NOT AIRLINE PILOTS! So let's quite dressing like it.

Thats right, your not an airline pilot!!!

Your furloughed!!..:bawling:


Or do I have you mistaken for someone else??

 

[727C47]

+1 Leather jacket, when recalls begin,count me in.

 

[hyflyin]

+1 Leather jacket, when recalls begin,count me in.

"When"? You mean, "if"..

 

[727C47]

"When"? You mean, "if"..

I stand by my original statement, but who knows , a lot of us are moving on to greener pastures and may not return anyway, me, I loved that job, it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

 

[hyflyin]

I stand by my original statement, but who knows , a lot of us are moving on to greener pastures and may not return anyway, me, I loved that job, it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Forgive my pessimism as I just do not have much faith in the current regime. I wish you well.

 

[727C47]

if you are one of my furloughed brothers no forgiveness is necessary,this has been hard on everybody,Godspeed you.