NJA to pay same wage as Dairy Queen

[Some Dude]

NJA is doing so poorly according to the company. I thought since we are a BH company then NJA could pay all employees the same wage as Dairy Queen employees. Maybe get some discounts for some ice cream cones. Why give anyone more money? What is the lowest wage you would work for in the casino? Any casino people care to chime in?

 

[nerdpilot]

atleast the top half of the senority list at netjets paid for their job...a job they new paid poorly but didnt care just so they could bypass a less glamorous 135 job and build some experience and actually earn a jet position.

 

[El Chupacabra]

This is false. Less than 20%... were hired before PFT was eliminated. There may be close to half of those who are here who are now furloughed from Majors or regionals or retired military.

Who told you you had to fly 135 to earn a jet position? Military and airlines not enough?

Now what is your point.

 

[hawkerflyer]

Yeah, but love those mocha moolattes...

 

[NJACrewservicer]

I started off 5 1/2 years ago at $8/hour.

 

[FAcFriend]

I started off 5 1/2 years ago at $8/hour.

at Dairy queen or net jets?

 

[DO-82 driver]

NJACrew....my waitress make more than you.....

 

[Lord Wakefield]

Dairy Cream wage?

ROTFL, not as long as Moisture is here saying we can't afford it.

This place is quickly turning into a low grade commuter airline. Load bags, sweat, fly with 2000hr F/Os and fly even smaller planes than the commuters.

If places like AirTran didn't require part 121 experience and you could upgrade like you could four years ago, it might be a good place to build time. Alas, it isn't even that anymore...

 

[CRAWDADDY]

This will never be as good a place as Dairy Queen again

 

[Dart]

If hired...do you go into the gulfstream or the bbj? Thanks

 

[FLYLOW22]

If hired...do you go into the gulfstream or the bbj? Thanks

No. You assume the bent over position and prepare for the SSBJ to be inserted.

 

[F9 Driver]

atleast the top half of the senority list at netjets paid for their job...a job they new paid poorly but didnt care just so they could bypass a less glamorous 135 job and build some experience and actually earn a jet position.

I'm probably going to start a war here. Please take this in the spirit intended!

I consider PFT to be like Alpine Air. You pay X$ for X hours of flight time - essentially buying your job that SHOULD pay you.

Quick math:

1st year EJA pay back then about 30K - taxes and type in C560 = about 15K take home.

1st year at most any commuter back then 15K - taxes and QOL = squat.

2nd year EJA pay in the mid thirty's and logging PIC in a jet.

2nd year at most any commuter in the mid 1990s = gross about what we'd take home in our 1st year at EJA.

I never understood the CAL commuter schools at the time that cost 10K to get a job for 12K, but at EJA, when compared to the other available choices, we could recoup our tax deductible investment relatively quickly.

Most / all of my new hire class in '97 came from 135 freight, commuters, and military.

How is this any different than going to HPA and getting your 737 type - hoping for an interview with SWA? (except we had a guaranteed job that at least would pay back the cost of the type.)

The next contract gave us our money back too. Yes, many pilots at the time were planning/did go onto other jobs, but others - like me- thought they found a place to spend their career.

Once these latest negotiations started I realized that the pilot group lacked the will to win against WB and RTS with the Truckers providing not much more than laptops (which we had to fight them for!) I got the opportunity to move on to greener pastures and took it. I think you've found the will after these years, and I hope you hold on for everything you can get from WB!

So Nerd, just FYI - most of us came from less glamorous 135 jobs and wanted to get a job that paid better than the commuters while having a life and building jet PIC in case we wanted to move on. In my case it worked!

 

[nerdpilot]

Yea you and the comair pukes are the ones that make this the dirt bag industry it is by paying for a stepping stone job with a high school stoner paycheck. Please dont compare paying for your net jets job with buying a 737 type that gets you a lifelong career.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

How is this any different than going to HPA and getting your 737 type - hoping for an interview with SWA?

Because the check gets written to HPA - not SWA.

Indoc, Aircraft training, and IOE are expenses that should be borne by the airline not the employee. We would never have seen PFT if people acted like paid professionals.

SWA hires people with a 737 type rating. They don't care where you get the rating. Most airlines require an ATP. An ATP is not required to be an FO. Why not complain about carriers requiring an ATP?

 

[Hogprint]

Love that avatar DB! I heard it is a static display now in MCO? I see his caravan down in PBI quite a bit. I gotta go now and imitate Gods own drunk!

 

[F9 Driver]

It is what it is Nerd.

The check was to FSI and that was before BH bought them.