NJA: got the interview email - 8/22-23

[keatts]

Whee! I'm so exctited.

Just few questions, anyone else get these days? LAX base any idea what aircraft are being offered? About how long are upgrades taking? I hear there is a written? First year about 56K if you stay on reserve? Is staying on reserve possible with a 2.5 - 3hr drive to LAX? what are normal showtimes? what are the fewest days on and off in a rotation? Do they let you know what hold you are going to get in the sim brief?

I'm really looking forward to working for NJ

keatts

 

[xpdriver]

Whee! I'm so exctited.

Just few questions, anyone else get these days? LAX base any idea what aircraft are being offered? About how long are upgrades taking? I hear there is a written? First year about 56K if you stay on reserve? Is staying on reserve possible with a 2.5 - 3hr drive to LAX? what are normal showtimes? what are the fewest days on and off in a rotation? Do they let you know what hold you are going to get in the sim brief?

I'm really looking forward to working for NJ

keatts

Congrats. DEpends on which AC you get weather you can stay on reserve..Schedules: I think 7 on 4 off 6 on 3 off those are guaranteed. The reserve is 18 days a month. That is alot of driving. Show times: anything and everything, depends on what they need that day. good luck. Pay, 36 on 7/7 and 46,200 on reserve,that is salary. You might make 56 first year,i would probably say more like 50--52,000. good luck

 

[netjetwife]

Congratulations, Keatts! Good Luck with the interview.
Best Wishes,
Netjetwife

 

[NightHauler]

Good luck on the interview. Just smile a lot and relax. You've got to be able to take it if you are coming here!

"Cooperate Graduate" and "be like a duck, and let all the .... roll off your back" are phrases that might help when you come to CMH for training.

39k on the 7 and 7, and 46 k on the reserve. Depending on which fleet you get, will depend on how fast you make the 7/7 schedule, if you want that schedule.

If you inteview in August, the bids for 4th quarter (xmas and holidays) go out to the pilots in Sep sometime, so if you make it on property before then, you can bid for 7/7 for the holdidays, otherwise, you'll be on that lousy schedule until Feb 1 at a minimum.

Good news is that depending on which fleet you go to, you may be sitting at home waiting for aircraft training and IOE (yes, they are separate, as of now, NJ wife knows more) for months.

Right now, the following fleets are backed up: XL, X, Hawker 800.

If you get hired into the Encore, you will get off Reserve right away. Of course, you will have no APU, but that's another story.

Don't listen to any lies about upgrading fast, or getting HBA (home based) quickly, it's all drivel. Upgrade may take several years. Going in with that attitude will save you pain later. My question to you is, where do you live, and do you like driving?

 

[netjetwife]

The UTC (Union Training Committee) has been working very hard to improve training. Meetings with the company (it's a joint project) and lots of work on their own should yield results. If not, it won't be the union's fault. Those men and one (I believe) woman have taken the mission to heart. I look forward to hearing the feedback from pilots that go through STEP....which stands for... ...can't believe I forgot that....:blush: .....Strategic Training....no, that's an Air Force class....looking it up...Scenario-based Training and Education Program don't know how I forgot that....guess all I hear is "STEP"

The good news is that the company and the union (in my opinion mostly 1108) should have a superior training program ready when it's time for the latest new hires to STEP forward. Don't forget to fill out the training surveys. The UTC wants the pilots to be actively involved in developing the program. Remember 1108 is YOUR union. The more the pilots participate the stronger the union becomes.

 

[Guitar Guy]

As for equipment in LAX, I think it's based mainly on the company's available sim slots and somewhat on the interviewee's experience (tubroprop vs. jet). A friend of mine interviewed recently was offered the Encore in LAX. He came from a turboprop-only background so the CE-560 was not unexpected in his case, at least in my opinon.

 

[NightHauler]

I hate to say it, but there is little logic to which plane you get assigned. You can think about it until pigs fly, but when it comes down to it, it's all about filling seats.

The Encore is SHORT right now, and they are attempting to fill seats.

We have had many, many classes full of the larger planes and now, according to your post, it sounds like they might be moving back to the smaller ones. Nothing suprising, aviation is cyclical, and NJA is certainly no different.

 

[RNObased]

The good news is that the company and the union (in my opinion mostly 1108) should have a superior training program ready when it's time for the latest new hires to STEP forward. Don't forget to fill out the training surveys. The UTC wants the pilots to be actively involved in developing the program. Remember 1108 is YOUR union. The more the pilots participate the stronger the union becomes.

You know something NJA wife, I have watched you post for a while now about things you kind of know about and held my tongue, I have to say something now. Maybe your husband is on the UTC and you got your info from a little pilow talk, don't really care. What makes you think that the STEP is going to be a great jump in the training process??? From what I have seen it looks like they are training for scenarios that happen once in every 100,000 hrs. As for the other great training changes, we will have to see. Looks like they are just shifting things from place to place.

Have filled out the surveys you speak of in the past, nothing ever came of them. Not that I expect anything to happen.

 

[milehigh6080]

Keatts,

How long did you wait to get the interview e-mail? When was your application accepted e-mail? I've been waiting a month, just curious to see how long the wait is. Thanks, and congrats.

 

[Scrapdog]

Is NJA hiring Mil guys as well?

Thanks - Scrapdog -

 

[netjetwife]

What makes you think that the STEP is going to be a great jump in the training process??? From what I have seen it looks like they are training for scenarios that happen once in every 100,000 hrs.

I look at the work that has gone into STEP--from the pilots' side. I know the objectives involved and, thus, see great potential. As the program is still being developed and hasn't even been put fully into place yet, I question where your opinion comes from? I listen to what is there now and where the UTC wants to take training and I see a lot of potential. That said, the company ultimately has the final say so the UTC can only accomplish so much on their own. If the program doesn't meet expectations it won't be for lack of trying on the part of the pilots involved.

It sounds as though you've noticed a difficulty I sometimes encounter in my posting. It is often necessary to balance participation with discretion. It's kind of a problem. Those who know me don't question my knowledge. I make it a rule not to post about topics which I don't understand. That's why you'll never see me post in technical discussions on the board... NJW

 

[RNObased]

I look at the work that has gone into STEP--from the pilots' side. I know the objectives involved and, thus, see great potential. As the program is still being developed and hasn't even been put fully into place yet, I question where your opinion comes from? I listen to what is there now and where the UTC wants to take training and I see a lot of potential. That said, the company ultimately has the final say so the UTC can only accomplish so much on their own. If the program doesn't meet expectations it won't be for lack of trying on the part of the pilots involved.

It sounds as though you've noticed a difficulty I sometimes encounter in my posting. It is often necessary to balance participation with discretion. It's kind of a problem. Those who know me don't question my knowledge. I make it a rule not to post about topics which I don't understand. That's why you'll never see me post in technical discussions on the board... NJW

My opionion comes from reading what is posted on the web and from talking to people on the UTC. The STEP deal is only for SIC's so doesn't apply to 60+% of the pilot group. We will see if anything actually changes.

I know who you are, so therefore I question your ability to be objective when it comes to something your husband is working on.

 

[xpdriver]

Is NJA hiring Mil guys as well?

Thanks - Scrapdog -

yes, OFCOURSE. Put your app in.

 

[gump88]

I LOVE NJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROFLMGDAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !



Sorry ya'll, I haven't posted in a long time and I couldn't help myself!

G

 

[netjetwife]

RNO, likewise, it wasn't too tough to figure out who you are and I think I'm being open-minded. It is my philosophy to judge people and programs on their own merits, waiting for results before forming an opinion. Seeing the amount of work that has gone on behind the scenes makes me more hopeful than you.

If the FAA changes the rules for PIC training the UTC will work just as hard to improve their side of the program, as well. The current way of doing training for PICs is not something the UTC can affect right now, therefore, efforts are being made to improve what they can, where they can.

 

[RNObased]

Seeing the amount of work that has gone on behind the scenes makes me more hopeful than you.

If the FAA changes the rules for PIC training the UTC will work just as hard to improve their side of the program, as well. The current way of doing training for PICs is not something the UTC can affect right now, therefore, efforts are being made to improve what they can, where they can.

Time will tell if anything changes...

The FAA changing rules?? Not likely..

 

[xpdriver]

Is NJA hiring Mil guys as well?

Thanks - Scrapdog -

Scrapdog, Talked to Linda at NJA, we do use the 1.2 conversion for Military flight time. Good Luck
Pm me if you have any questions...

 

[Scrapdog]

Scrapdog, Talked to Linda at NJA, we do use the 1.2 conversion for Military flight time. Good Luck
Pm me if you have any questions...

Thanks XP - I appreciate the help. Is it 1.2 times your total mil flight time or is it 1.2 times your sortie total and then add to your mil hours? I know, it's queepy, but I want to make sure I do it correctly. Any idea on that? Again, thanks for the words...

 

[xpdriver]

Thanks XP - I appreciate the help. Is it 1.2 times your total mil flight time or is it 1.2 times your sortie total and then add to your mil hours? I know, it's queepy, but I want to make sure I do it correctly. Any idea on that? Again, thanks for the words...

No problem, I'm not sure about which time to add it to. I would probably say wheels up to wheels down then times 1.2. It will probably say on the app.

 

[keatts]

Well, I think the interview went ok. I did well on the sim, just a couple alt deviations which I corrected, and just general sim'isms. I hope I make the grade, it's a great company, someplace I could see myself finishing up my career at.

keatts

 

[netjetwife]

Good luck Keatts! It sounds as though you're right on track. If you are hired I hope you plan to be an active, engaged member of the union. It took a strong union to turn things around and make NJA a career choice rather than just a stepping stone. It will take vigilance by informed pilots to keep it that way.

Best Wishes,
Netjetwife

 

[FLYLOW22]

It will take vigilance by informed pilots to keep it that way.

Best Wishes,
Netjetwife

I agreed NJW. I conduct unofficial FRDA, etc. groundschools around the country as able to willing NJAers. It's been 7 months since the inception of FRDA and the company appears to, only now, finally be getting it right.

"The best thing in the cockpit is a well trained pilot." That saying doesn't only apply to flight training.

 

[keatts]

arrg!!

no call today, should I be concerned?

keatts

 

[netjetwife]

I don't know...either way, you'd probably still be anxious... regardless of the experience of others. You'll still be listening for the phone, I bet.
I don't envy you the waiting. Good Luck!!

 

[Hogprint]

Thanks XP - I appreciate the help. Is it 1.2 times your total mil flight time or is it 1.2 times your sortie total and then add to your mil hours? I know, it's queepy, but I want to make sure I do it correctly. Any idea on that? Again, thanks for the words...

Scrapdog,
Not sure how you do it in the AF, but the Army had your flight times printed at the end of your APART. I think it was called the dash 1 file? Anyhow just add your time to that and it should be fine.

 

[Scrapdog]

Scrapdog,
Not sure how you do it in the AF, but the Army had your flight times printed at the end of your APART. I think it was called the dash 1 file? Anyhow just add your time to that and it should be fine.

In the AF, it's called our Form 5 - it's essentially our totals in each jet we've flown and the number of sorties. Each airline is kind of different, i.e. FDX lets you multiply your sortie number times .2 and add it to your total time in that specific jet. JBlue on the other hand lets you multiply .2 times your total time and add it to that jet's time (if I remember right). Anyway, that's why I was asking the question on how NJets does it because each option gives you a different total. It's tough for a fighter guy to compete with an RJ guy when each sortie in a jet with an afterburner is about a 1.2. Thanks for the words...

 

[netjetwife]

That formula sounds familiar. Nice avatar! Are you a Zoomie, Scrapdog?

 

[Scrapdog]

That formula sounds familiar. Nice avatar! Are you a Zoomie, Scrapdog?

Yep I am!

 

[xpdriver]

Scrapdog did ya apply? Or get an app yet? Just wondering>>>>

 

[Scrapdog]

Scrapdog did ya apply? Or get an app yet? Just wondering>>>>

Not yet brutha - I'm just shy of the 2500 hour total they want by about a 100 or so unfortunately...however I've flown quite a bit recently so hopefully it won't be long. As soon as I hit the 2500 hour total, I'll send my app in, but like I said earlier it's tough when each flight is about a 1.0.