NJA DAL Equipment

[pilotpat]

hydrarkt...I'm hopin' for the interview email within the next week or so and the XL/XLS is definitely what I'm leaning toward if given a choice. Right now, in my Falcon, we run 4 hour legs and sometimes more..."Oh, you need a fuel stop from TEB-BUR?" Plus, making a car payment out of differences cash would sure make the wife happy ~ it'll be tough taking such a huge paycut for a while! And now, I've gotta wait 5 years to get my custom chopper

 

[NJA bound]

Pat, I know several CE560 FOs that do contract work on their 7 days off, SIC pay is $500. a day. One 3 day trip a month is $1,500. (they airline you to the plane first night, work the second and airline home third) will get ya 15 grand a year, get that bike in no time :beer:

 

[pilotpat]

Brother...now that's got me excited. I keep checking my dam Outlook Express like 5 times an hour. I need a charter so I can quit tripping here, hahahaa!

Uh, oh ~ time to check email again. Its like a bad OCD. Maybe I'll go mow the lawn and hit it with some fertilizer and grub killer. That oughta get me out for a couple hours.

 

[JustInfo]

Lots of 800XPC bids right now for Cpt and FO because of the 900XP's coming in August. Expect them to go senior though because of the differences pay that will be coming with the 900's. If you are lucky enough to get hired into the 800XPC then congrats, it is a great airplane, and extra pay makes it even better.

 

[pilotpat]

Really, the 800/900 is going to be run like the XL/XLS, huh? Shoulda seen that coming, but that's something good to know.

 

[Dr Pepper]

I heard that there was a good chance that the difference pay for the XL/XLS was going to go away real soon. Any truth to that?

 

[CA1900]

The contract requires differences pay for pilots current on two models of aircraft. The only way the differences pay could go away is if the fleets were split and operated individually (very unlikely at this time), or all the XLs were retired (that'll be a while).

What will likely happen is that we start taking deliveries of the XLS+, which has Collins Proline 21 avionics. All rumors point to that model being operated as a separate fleet, and since its pilots would be qualified on just a single model, there wouldn't be any differences pay.

 

[On Your Six]

The contract requires differences pay for pilots current on two models of aircraft. The only way the differences pay could go away is if the fleets were split and operated individually (very unlikely at this time), or all the XLs were retired (that'll be a while).

What will likely happen is that we start taking deliveries of the XLS+, which has Collins Proline 21 avionics. All rumors point to that model being operated as a separate fleet, and since its pilots would be qualified on just a single model, there wouldn't be any differences pay.

When are XLS+ aircraft expected on the property? How many have been ordered/optioned?

Lack of differences pay for that airplane sucks but it looks like a real nice airplane.

 

[pilotpat]

Not knowing the airplane, with that ProLine suite it seems like it should be listed under differences. Only logic I have to go on is the difference between a Diamondjet and Beechjet. Same type...totally different airplane.

 

[altscap]

Listening (reading) to you all talk on here, I wonder if the payscales on APC are accurate. Can anyone define the payscales any more accurately as far as differences pay? And waht about the tips, you all get tips don'tyou (on the hush hush probably) Also, why so many equipment types? Wouldn't fewer types equal lower training costs as with the commercials.

I've got my app ready to fill out and hope to meet some of you in LA in before the holidays. Thanks.

 

[NJA bound]

Uncle Warren owns NetJets and FlightSafety, training cost is just money going from one pocket to the other.

 

[gunfyter]

Listening (reading) to you all talk on here, I wonder if the payscales on APC are accurate. Thanks.

Because of the Holiday pay and overtime... multiply the payscales by 110%. I think you can do that by doing what I do. I try to work all the holidays except Christmas and Thanksgiving because I don't care about any of the others.

Holidays pay an extra 1.5 normal days pay. I think NJ pretty much guaranteed they won't be short crews on holidays with this policy.

Remember -- One Selloff = a couple of dozen Holiday pays.

And how much better is it to have people volunteer to fly the holiday happy than to have a crew bummed out because they are getting screwed with working the holiday -- AGAIN!

 

[NCherches]

With the 7/7 schedule is it possible to request a day off... say a day 6 months out? I know there are sick days and all...

 

[Ultra Grump]

Yes, but it'd be an unpaid LOA, and no guarantee you'll get it.

 

[jonjuan]

Because of the Holiday pay and overtime... multiply the payscales by 110%. I think you can do that by doing what I do. I try to work all the holidays except Christmas and Thanksgiving because I don't care about any of the others.

Holidays pay an extra 1.5 normal days pay. I think NJ pretty much guaranteed they won't be short crews on holidays with this policy.

Remember -- One Selloff = a couple of dozen Holiday pays.

And how much better is it to have people volunteer to fly the holiday happy than to have a crew bummed out because they are getting screwed with working the holiday -- AGAIN!

Yeah, but how many owners actually fly ON holidays? Wouldn't the highest flying be the days prior and after the actual holidays?