Nice high paying 737 BBJ Co-Captain job, $140,000.

[alberchico]

Flying is a passion that burns inside of you.If you get into this industry thinking of large salaries and a glamorous lifestyle then you're setting yourself up for a great dissapointment in the long run.A pilot can go years of suffering low pay and long hours before getting anywhere.I knew that the day I started taking flight lessons.Yes its the most unstable industry to work for out there right now,but if you love it ,then do it.

 

[Dep676]

Your making a mountain out of a mole hill. Look at all the flights that have flown without incident. That proves that the terrorist were just lucky. The chance of even seeing a terrorist is .0000012 percent.I used to work out in the same gym with Atta and he lived only 2 miles from me, but that is beside the point.

You are probably right. But when some jerkoff like Calvin says that the corporate pilot is just being pi$$y because he has a complex is way out of line. There is morre to an aviation career than flying for a major or any airline. By the looks of his profile he isn't much of a pilot. Maybe someday he might just make captain in that RJ he is flying. That is if they (airline) doesn't go under before then.

 

[:-)]

You are probably right. But when some jerkoff like Calvin says that the corporate pilot is just being pi$$y because he has a complex is way out of line. There is morre to an aviation career than flying for a major or any airline.

Then why do so many of you feel the need to justify your lack of ability to get to the big show? BTW, I've got more time waiting for the boss than you have total time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

By the looks of his profile he isn't much of a pilot. Maybe someday he might just make captain in that RJ he is flying. That is if they (airline) doesn't go under before then.

Judge for yourself, sit in the lounge and start talking about airline pilots. Every corporate pilot in earshot will opine about how airline pilots are overpaid, underworked, etc, etc.

If they didn't have an inferiority complex they wouldn't bother.

BTW, I could be anyone from a retired widebody Captain down to a Puero Rican DC3 co, you just don't know. Do ya?

Calvin, the invincible.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I dunno bitter little man...

I have plenty of airline friends and we both envy EACH OTHERS jobs in one way or another... Most corporate guys I fly dont with even pay attention to the airlines..they really just dont care! - unlike you..we dont sit around and talk about the aviation industry...

There are plenty of corporate jobs that pay six figure salaries, operate the best equipment, have great benefits, and very fair working conditions. Did your airline start you with 5 weeks vacation? Does your airline put you up at the Ritz when you overnight?

Overworked? every single airline pilot I know works harder than me...overpaid?? AHH, no ...most I know -regionals to the majors- are UNDERPAID if you ask me (if they are still employed).

You want to talk stablity? where you been the last 4 years? I dont know a single unemployed corporate pilot. Can you say the same about airline pilots?

Wake up man, there are good parts about each job, go the path that suits you best...end of story

but to think that there is some big beef between the two groups??....thats strange calvin...

Dont be a dork. Go get some viagra old fella...it will take your mind off airplanes.

 

[GVFlyer]

All of those sentiments are a defense mechanism against their corporate pilot inferiority complex. They don't make as much money (even at todays reduced pay for mainline) and they have to find a way to justify their lack of success.


Calvin

At the time I was leaving Andrews AFB about half of the guys in the squadron were going to the airlines(principally United and US AIR, a few to AA and Southwest), and the rest to corporate positions. I was in the latter group because financially I was unwilling to take the economic opportunity loss of 7 years to pay parity.

It has been my experience that if you get the right corporate job, you will fly better equipment to more interesting places, have a better quality of life both on the road and at home, and will make as much money as a senior captain at a legacy airline.

I don't spend enough nights on the road to qualify for Marriott Gold status, but I do enjoy flying M.85 at 49,000 feet and the occasional trip to Hawaii, London, Paris or Athens.

I guess it just depends on what your definition of good is...

GV

 

[350DRIVER]

Big show?


3 5 0

AAflyer writes, I have noticed somehting over the past couple years of your posts, from PFT to airline mergers you have strong opinion about everything. You seem arrogant, and many times down right rude.

 

[GEXDriver]

???

... BTW, I've got more time waiting for the boss than you have total time. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

...BTW, I could be anyone from a retired widebody Captain down to a Puero Rican DC3 co, you just don't know. Do ya?

Calvin, the invincible.

Cal,

This statement is a little schizo - which are you a corporate pilot waiting for the boss or a Puerto Rican Dakota driver?

Not that it matters - I can't think of a Part 121 job I'd swap my gig for...

 

[:-)]

Cal,

This statement is a little schizo - which are you a corporate pilot waiting for the boss or a Puerto Rican Dakota driver?

Not that it matters - I can't think of a Part 121 job I'd swap my gig for...

Calling Calvin schizo, there's a new one.

BTW, like I said, I ain't telling what I do. You people don't show any more respect for participants who ident themselves than you do for those of us who are anonymous, so I'll remain anonymous.

I'll give you this much. I earn my living flying aeromachines.

Calvin

 

[SkyGirl]

Calling Calvin schizo, there's a new one.

BTW, like I said, I ain't telling what I do. You people don't show any more respect for participants who ident themselves than you do for those of us who are anonymous, so I'll remain anonymous.

I'll give you this much. I earn my living flying aeromachines.

Calvin

Ahhh, the mysterious Calvin- either a disgruntled corporate pilot longing to be an airline pilot or an airline pilot with an uninformed view of corporate aviation and an ax to grind with those within it...

 

[:-)]

Ahhh, the mysterious Calvin- either a disgruntled corporate pilot longing to be an airline pilot or an airline pilot with an uninformed view of corporate aviation and an ax to grind with those within it...

Been there done both.

No axe to grind.

Just commenting on what I observed in countless corporate pilots lounges across this country, Canada, Mexico, etc.

BTW, I could be happy on either side of the fence. Hard as it may be for you easy targets to believe, I've got friends in both worlds. The one thing I try not to do, is join the other corporate pilots as they make fun of those underworked airline pilots, or joing the airline guy who laughs at toy airplanes.

Hobbes

 

[:-)]

OK Skygirl, point taken

I went back to my first post. I was too much a jerk when implying corporate pilots would scab. Calvin was off the deep end. I DO KNOW corporate pilots who would scab, but shouldn't have said that all would scab.

As for their complex, most still exhibit signs of having one.

Hobbes

 

[apdsm]

Calvin

You sir are a nitwit. What airline do you work for? Let me guess you probably work for a regional making the big bucks flying an RJ. Man am I jealous of you. I know plenty of guys that make as much if not more flying for corporate operators than your almighty airlines pilots. They also fly newer better equipment and have better schedules. So the "airline" guy gets in the cockpit waits for the cattle to get in and off they go. Same place everyday. Sounds exciting to me, NOT!!!

Looks like somebody struck a nerve...

 

[apdsm]

Flying is a passion that burns inside of you.

OK, now THAT'S funny!

 

[:-)]

Looks like somebody struck a nerve...

No man I couldn't have struck a nerve. Remember, they don't have any complex's.

The funny thing is: I'd trade my 121 job for a Falcon,etc in a hearbeat. But I wouldn't waste any time worrying about how a 121 guy gets more days off, or waste any time justifying my own worth.

Cal

 

[pipers]

Just out of curiousity Mr. Turbo: Why would anybody scab?


Had the choice myself in '85, got a letter from UAL...Dropped it in the trash can right away...Would rather stay low key turbo-prop FO than get involved in that mess.

Your profile says your furloughed...?

 

[CSY Mon]

Your profile says your furloughed...?

Yup furloughed and would rather stay that way than scabbing.....

(In case that was yer question)

Have worked with some scabs in the Middle East: Have heard the crying stories and the excuses and all that, but still don't get it.

WHY?

Not only do ya screw yer fellow pilots, but ya also screw yerself in the long run.

Some of the Eastern scabs could not get a good job without scabbing.
Then when the whole thing collapsed, they were not only marginally qualified, but also tainted....Well, here comes ValueJet: Pay $10K for a job to get back in the air one way or the other, then crash into the Eveglades.

Sad.