News Flash For Those SkedPlus Lovers...

[120% Torque]

As soon as the union drive is over, reserve staffing will fall further and you will not for a very long time be able to give away diddly. Just wanted you to know that your ability to drop right now is directlly tied to a union vote in progress. Thanks for listening.

Oh one other thing, the "no base closures" hurrah from BH can be lumped under the same feel good umbrella. Lastly, if you are new, ask yourself, in all of your time at skywest how often have you heard so much "communication" from the top with tag lines at the bottom of each message "our door is always open, we are all ears, we will always do what is best for you, dont you think the people who have been running skywest for 33 years+ know what is best, not some outside evil force, we love you and our door is always open or you can call if you want.

PS- We love you and our door is always open if we didnt say it earlier!"

Contast this will with pretty much all other times.

 

[deluxxx]

Can anyone drop a trip.

 

[Flip]

As soon as the vote is over, they will announce the base closures in the following order. MRY, SBP, PDX and SAN. All gone by Dec 2008

 

[Spinplate]

Thats almost certain with them trading in EMBs for more 70's......no brainer

 

[OO pilot]

Torque, I don't know who you are, but I want you to run the SkyWest MEC when ALPA gets voted in...

 

[Flip]

Torque, I don't know who you are, but I want you to run the SkyWest MEC when ALPA gets voted in...

Ditto. Good posts right on the money!!

 

[XPOO]

Torque writes more ALPA propoganda than the whole SkyWest OCC combined. Hitler would be proud.

 

[Weasil]

Hitler would be proud.

why would you bring Hitler into this?

 

[Buzo]

Torque writes more ALPA propoganda than the whole SkyWest OCC combined. Hitler would be proud.

At least someone isn't afraid of telling the truth. Management is not our friend.

 

[MarineGrunt]

As soon as the union drive is over, reserve staffing will fall further and you will not for a very long time be able to give away diddly. Just wanted you to know that your ability to drop right now is directlly tied to a union vote in progress. Thanks for listening.

What makes you say this? What makes you think it will be any more difficult to drop a trip next month than it was a week ago? For what it's worth, I haven't been able to drop a trip in sked plus since it came out...

I appreciate all your input so far, and I think you are making a difference swaying the undecideds, just want to keep things honest here....

 

[MarineGrunt]

Can anyone drop a trip.

If there are reserves available, yes, you can drop a trip and it is immediately assigned to a reserve. SkedPlus will tell you if there are "minimum reserves" available and will deny the drop if reserve pilots get down to X amount...

It's really nothing different than we had already, it's just a different program that puts everything together to be more user friendly..

 

[SkyNation]

Torque, I don't know who you are, but I want you to run the SkyWest MEC when ALPA gets voted in...

why? what would our company culture be like if malcontents, complainers, and those who feel that the world owes them something via entitlements were in those meetings with BH, CC, et al?

if you think things suck at SkyWest now (I don't), wait until our culture is infected with this attitude and all of it's inherent divisiveness.

oh, but at least then it'll be official, right?

 

[amcnd]

Man you guys or gals are so negitive. SkyWest is great compaired to my former airlines. go work for Eagle or Mesa for a couple of years then come back to SkyWest, and see if your attitude changes.. It will!!!

 

[XPOO]

why would you bring Hitler into this?

Hitler and Propoganda go hand in hand, kinda like Peanut Butter and Jelly. Throwing fear into the face of the weak-minded pilot, who can't decide for himself, that his/her whole world will come crashing down if he/she doesn't give money to someone to represent him/her constitutes a very good Hitler comparison if you ask me.

But more than that, its just nice to know someone can see me. Someone has to keep a fair balance to these overly-exagerated ALPA scare tactic threads. I guess I'm the mercinary.

 

[SkyNation]

amcnd,

all you care about is your quick upgrade. even though you have experience under an ALPA regime, your thoughts and opinions don't count, because you don't see the whole picture. wait 'til you've been here for a few years, then you'll be as crusty, cranky, leftist, anti-capitalist as the rest of us.

 

[Buzo]

AMCND is management.

 

[joe_pilot]

Hitler and Propoganda go hand in hand, kinda like Peanut Butter and Jelly. Throwing fear into the face of the weak-minded pilot, who can't decide for himself, that his/her whole world will come crashing down if he/she doesn't give money to someone to represent him/her constitutes a very good Hitler comparison if you ask me.

But more than that, its just nice to know someone can see me. Someone has to keep a fair balance to these overly-exagerated ALPA scare tactic threads. I guess I'm the mercinary.

It is EXACTLY this kind of oversimplification that has me turned off on the whole Union drive. FROM BOTH SIDES!

BH insulting my intelligence by saying I shouldn't call because I can't figure out how to vote no, some (not all, but a large number of ) pro-ALPA people telling me how there are ZERO downsides to being represented by ALPA.

Yes, there's a tremendous amount of propaganda coming from BOTH SIDES, but comparing Hitler's lunacy to ANY labor issue is just plain ridiculous.

You have to know that.

Educate yourselves, vote not with your conscious, but with your brain and Fly Safe.

-JP

 

[SkyNation]

good post, joe_pilot

 

[XPOO]

Of course I know that, but how better to describe this kind of propoganda then by comparing it to the same thing an evil icon used to fuel his world domination? At least it grabs attention and wakes people up. If you are seriously undecided and you need to come to FI.com to figure out if you should vote yes or no, then you shouldn't even be allowed to possess a license.

Management is paid to tell you to vote no. ALPA members are forced to tell you to say yes. Take a look at where SkyWest and all the other ALPA-represented airlines are at and make your decisions on the one thing that cannot be a lie or propoganda, and that's your own volition. Don't let people persuade you through peer-pressure, scare tactics, job threats or anything else.

I just have fun refuting ALPA chest-thumpers claims of the sky will fall.

 

[SKYW Pilot]

Can anyone drop a trip.

I exchanged half my schedule for better trips and dropped the other half to fly out of domicile (where I live). SkedPlus is great. You guys are being way too negative. I'm an RJ Captain, though, and our staffing levels are much better than the F.O.'s. We're way short on F.O.'s, but I think that's happening at all the regionals right now. Just not enough pilots out there to hire.

 

[120% Torque]

Hitler and Propoganda go hand in hand, kinda like Peanut Butter and Jelly. Throwing fear into the face of the weak-minded pilot, who can't decide for himself, that his/her whole world will come crashing down if he/she doesn't give money to someone to represent him/her constitutes a very good Hitler comparison if you ask me.

But more than that, its just nice to know someone can see me. Someone has to keep a fair balance to these overly-exagerated ALPA scare tactic threads. I guess I'm the mercinary.

Most of what I have posted is facts, or statements supported by actual documentation. Most of what you, skynation, that management guy who is pretending to be a dispatcher (oh yeah thats you), "the best", etc post is pure unsubstantiated, unsupported rhetoric. Whos calling who the propaganda artist and fear monger. Look in the mirror, you are a sad little man Brad.

 

[platinumclub]

I volunteered to sit reserve the other day when we were 'below min staffing' and they said they were fine on reserves...WTF?

 

[amcnd]

AMCND is management.

If I was, I would'nt have been able to rip up my voting instructuons yesturday!!!:smash:

And I don't want to be tha guy in 1 year looking through my avitar because alpa does'nt care about us anymore. Thinking "what did we do?"

 

[XPOO]

What have I spouted that is propoganda? But I forgot, anything Torque posts is 100% factual data, take it to the bank, the sky IS falling, truth and anything anyone says that even slightly cast the Almighty ALPA in any type of tiny little miniscule bad light is total fear mongering at its worst.

Also, ALPA is allowed to put as much propoganda on the market as humanly possible and damned be anyone who dare try to write anything in rebuttal. How dare anyone NOT believe a paid group or representatives that do not work at SkyWest about what's best for SkyWest. It's just un-f*cking-believable that anyone would question the Almighty ALPA Gods.

 

[amcnd]

take your 2% invest it and over the next 30 years with a 9% returen you would have close to 400K!! I would much rather have that then a alpa pin...(witch I already have)

 

[METARzan]

All I have to do is compare the summary judgment from Don's case against the letter KB sent out and I know who is putting out the propaganda.

Also, our fearless SAPA leader just sent out a letter against the union using a ploy about how ASA lost continental flying due to ALPA that directly conflicts with statements given to investors. Hmmmm. And he did that after a unanimous vote within a SAPA meeting that all SAPA officers would remain neutral on the ALPA issue in public postings.

I may not know everything but I've been around long enough to know that the majority of the bull is coming from SGU, not Herndon.

The more that SGU sends out, the more their credibility is brought into question.

 

[Buzo]

If I was, I would'nt have been able to rip up my voting instructuons yesturday!!!:smash:

And I don't want to be tha guy in 1 year looking through my avitar because alpa does'nt care about us anymore. Thinking "what did we do?"

Thats funny, under your name in the directory it states Chief Pilot.

 

[120% Torque]

All I have to do is compare the summary judgment from Don's case against the letter KB sent out and I know who is putting out the propaganda.

Also, our fearless SAPA leader just sent out a letter against the union using a ploy about how ASA lost continental flying due to ALPA that directly conflicts with statements given to investors. Hmmmm.

I may not know everything but I've been around long enough to know that the majority of the bull is coming from SGU, not Herndon.

The more that SGU sends out, the more their credibility is brought into question.

You will notice these guys never address facts like these. Even Schleuter after repeated requests to clarify his missinformation on the sapa forums is using the avoidance technique. These guys use five of the same lame duck arguements which have all been proven wrong and well refuted against dozens of pages of documents and actions taken by management and sapa's very poor track record which also is documented http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=103812 These guys have an agenda, they do not want to address the facts. Its just spin, nothing more.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

What have I spouted that is propoganda? But I forgot, anything Torque posts is 100% factual data, take it to the bank, the sky IS falling, truth and anything anyone says that even slightly cast the Almighty ALPA in any type of tiny little miniscule bad light is total fear mongering at its worst.

Also, ALPA is allowed to put as much propoganda on the market as humanly possible and damned be anyone who dare try to write anything in rebuttal. How dare anyone NOT believe a paid group or representatives that do not work at SkyWest about what's best for SkyWest. It's just un-f*cking-believable that anyone would question the Almighty ALPA Gods.

Actually, I've been around to personally experience everything Torque has posted and it's 100% factual. You might have noticed he actually has documents to back what he says, unlike some dispatchers that seem to spout whatever lame BS they feel like making up...after admitting they were "grossly uniformed"!

 

[www.]

1. ALPA members are forced to tell you to say yes.

2. Don't let people persuade you through peer-pressure, scare tactics, job threats or anything else.

1. Are you sure about that? I think not.

2. This you are correct just as you have done on several of your own posts. I've seen this in several Skywest memo also.