New speeds?

[Mach 80]

Doing an informal survey...how many of you guys have had new lowered mandated cost indexes and lowered speeds due to increasing fuel costs in the last year or so? I've been hearing ATC ask some flights to increase to 280kt indicated and sometimes the response has been "We'd rather not if possible, we're flying an economy profile".

 

[Cardinal]

We fly at CIs between 6 and 8, results in no-wind cruise speeds around .76 in the high thirties. Climb at 280 plus, Descent is usually .76/250kt.

We happily accelerate for ATC. If you're assigned 280, we just do it. Arguing will get you 250, but turned off course and has completely defeated the purpose.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

We used to fly all kinds of different Cost Indexes, usually 50 or 70; but since we changed software I haven't seen anything but CI-35.

I'm not sure if this is because of the price of oil or the software we now use. My guess is its a little of both.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Comair has been flying new profiles since bankruptcy to save on fuel costs. I hear that we save over one million dollars a month doing this based on fuel prices about one year ago. Not uncommon for us to fly super slow, just depends on our headwind or tailwind.

The new profile also has us staying at altitude as long as possible with a space shuttle descent.

 

[CitationLover]

14 in the 717, just changed from 18.

 

[PropPiedmont]

SWA just changed from 36 (-700) & 28 (-3/500) to 20 for all a/c.

 

[Lowrider717]

TRS has been at 25 forever. A short test last year saw some different CI's but I haven't seen it since.

 

[1031Guy]

30 in the -800 (290 climb/273 descent).

 

[ratherbeflyen]

Our new profile is to be on time and if your early use long range cruise.

 

[AWACoff]

We are around CI 3 to 5. Descents are around 243kts (give or take a few). This is for GUM. I don't know about the mainland.

 

[instructordude]

Speed is life. I carry 10 KTS fast everywhere, departure, cruise, and approach.

 

[Cardinal]

Speed is life. I carry 10 KTS fast everywhere, departure, cruise, and approach.

You're dangerouuuus....

 

[instructordude]

You're dangerouuuus....

I am not dangerous and I am not writing checks my body can't cash.:laugh:

 

[waveflyer]

Paid by the minute... if the company wants slow- they'll get slow...
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ID- i've never seen someone so fully live up to their reputation-
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[nimtz]

We are around CI 3 to 5. Descents are around 243kts (give or take a few). This is for GUM. I don't know about the mainland.

Sadly there are guys dense enough to try flying arrivals into EWR @ 243 knots.