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New Rest Rules for Ultra Long Haul Operations

General Lee

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Dozing for dollars. We also have a crew rest facility on some of our 767-300ERs that fly over 12 hours nonstop with bunks. It is so much nicer to sleep on a flat surface with quiet instead of at a seat with a curtain around it.

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Notice the pic. Wearing your hat to bed: The essence of professionalism. :pimp:
 

Rez O. Lewshun

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Notice the pic. Wearing your hat to bed: The essence of professionalism. :pimp:


Well a couple of comments...

He is a DAL guy... on a side note.. all the NWA guys are going to have to 'cowboy up' to the Deltoid image. No? Which is a far cry from the DTW and MEM based NWA crews trying to go incognito with no hat, no blazer, no wings... That image was "I am not a pilot... you didn't just see me...!! sshhhhh, I am just going to slip into Coney Island (or Sun Studios) here and get a grilled cheese...

Let's wait and see what Sully says about crew rest and the hat.... this pic might be spot on! He is after all the professional pontif de jour....

Keep in mind, the average NYT reader sees the hat and says.. "yup, that is definitely not a stewardess"

















































[end sarcasm]
 

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Dozing for dollars. We also have a crew rest facility on some of our 767-300ERs that fly over 12 hours nonstop with bunks. It is so much nicer to sleep on a flat surface with quiet instead of at a seat with a curtain around it.

Bye Bye--General Lee

I think I know why the General's seat needs a curtain......

(Pay no attention to the gimp behind the curtain.)
 

General Lee

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I think I know why the General's seat needs a curtain......

(Pay no attention to the gimp behind the curtain.)


Well, that is a 777 rest facility, and our 767-300ER facility has bunk beds. But, you didn't know that obviously. Speaking of rest, you need to update the McDondald's resume, since most of your 50 seat RJs will be "resting" soon in Marana.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

crj567

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Well, that is a 777 rest facility, and our 767-300ER facility has bunk beds. But, you didn't know that obviously. Speaking of rest, you need to update the McDondald's resume, since most of your 50 seat RJs will be "resting" soon in Marana.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Better than "resting" in the arms of your gimp, zipperhead.....

-BTW- How is that two-cycle adult toy we sent you and your gimp for the holidays working out? Tried that sucker yet, or holding out for your next layover in LBB?
 

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The sleep expert is dead on, a longer rest period in a hotel screws you up MORE, not less.
 

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Right, but in some instances, at DL, due to our schedules, a 24 hour layover isnt possible.

For example, for our PVG flights, those arent daily, so a constant 24 hour overnight isnt possible.

What I think they are really discussing is the OpSpec (A332 I think) for ultra-long haul operations. I dont think youd see the 24 off prior, 48 off in country rule on a short hop to Europe from the East Coast, just those specific flight operations which are listed in the OpSpec.
 

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Better than "resting" in the arms of your gimp, zipperhead.....

-BTW- How is that two-cycle adult toy we sent you and your gimp for the holidays working out? Tried that sucker yet, or holding out for your next layover in LBB?

You will need a rest break between cleaning stalls at the local McD's. I hope you don't fall asleep while making fries......that would sting. And BTW, you make absolutely NO SENSE. It has never stopped you before though. Enjoy the McNuggets.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 

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I had to laugh with the guy lounging in the bunk wearing the hat.

Flew one of the bunk bed equipped 7ERs the other day up to JFK. Those things actually looked pretty comfortable, but I've gotta wonder.... there's no seat in the bunk area, so where do you eat your meal while you're on your break? Do they block off a seat? General?
 

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I had to laugh with the guy lounging in the bunk wearing the hat.

Flew one of the bunk bed equipped 7ERs the other day up to JFK. Those things actually looked pretty comfortable, but I've gotta wonder.... there's no seat in the bunk area, so where do you eat your meal while you're on your break? Do they block off a seat? General?

I usually eat in the cockpit, and sleep only in the bunks. It's pretty tight in there.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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crj567

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You will need a rest break between cleaning stalls at the local McD's. I hope you don't fall asleep while making fries......that would sting. And BTW, you make absolutely NO SENSE. It has never stopped you before though. Enjoy the McNuggets.


Bye Bye--General Lee

You will need a break after the gimp gets done with that toy.....

-You may need to put some lotion on that too, Capt. Cornhole!

"You sure got a purty mouth"
-Gen Lee
 
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Aside from the hat, someone needs to tell the boy to put down the fork, unless he is senior, then eat away :)
 

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I had to laugh with the guy lounging in the bunk wearing the hat.

Flew one of the bunk bed equipped 7ERs the other day up to JFK. Those things actually looked pretty comfortable, but I've gotta wonder.... there's no seat in the bunk area, so where do you eat your meal while you're on your break? Do they block off a seat? General?

You eat Roman style, with the "gorillas in the mist" feeding you grapes. :eek:
 

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Right, but in some instances, at DL, due to our schedules, a 24 hour layover isnt possible.

For example, for our PVG flights, those arent daily, so a constant 24 hour overnight isnt possible.

What I think they are really discussing is the OpSpec (A332 I think) for ultra-long haul operations. I dont think youd see the 24 off prior, 48 off in country rule on a short hop to Europe from the East Coast, just those specific flight operations which are listed in the OpSpec.

The longer the layover, the more screwed up you get. I felt much worse coming back from a sixty hour layover in HKG than I do with a twenty four hour layover in DEL. It is very simple, the more you adjust to the time zone you are in, the harder it is to leave.
 

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Right, but in some instances, at DL, due to our schedules, a 24 hour layover isnt possible.

For example, for our PVG flights, those arent daily, so a constant 24 hour overnight isnt possible.

What I think they are really discussing is the OpSpec (A332 I think) for ultra-long haul operations. I dont think youd see the 24 off prior, 48 off in country rule on a short hop to Europe from the East Coast, just those specific flight operations which are listed in the OpSpec.

What do you guys have a for rig for layovers that exceed 24+?
 
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