New Orleans... very sad

[jarhead]

jarhead - Its obvious that you dont agree with the war and thats fine, you are certainly not alone. Using the war as a reason things arent going well in the gulf is a spin and you know it. Iraq is not our only national expense. Nice try though, if your flying career does not work out, you might have a future at CNN.

Don't worry about my flying career working out macfly. I'm 65 years old and have been retired for several years now.

I am not alone in the assessment that this war in Iraq has drained our resources of men, equipment, and money to the breaking point. Why are there no Federal troops or adequate guard with convoys of vehicles providing food, water and medicine to the victims, and why has such an inadequate response to getting people out of those areas devastated? I notice that the press seems to be able to get in and out with their camera's and portable generators. The area in and around downtown N.O. does have busses leaving with people. Just too few and way too late. So it is possible to get people moved out....just not enough resources to get the job run, and an extreme incompetence at the highest levels of government.

God help us if we have these folks in charge if a terror attack comes without warning and to an unknown place. We knew exactly where this disaster would hit, and we knew when well in advance, yet look at how ineffective FEMA and Homeland Security have responded. It's shameful and a national disgrace.

 

[macfly]

Jim brings up a good point...

The mayor was complaining that he was getting school buses for rescue transportation instead of greyhound buses.

Which one was in his original evac plan, or did he have one?

Looks like the city was not prepared and is now blaming national rescue services for thier lack of foresight.

 

[wrxpilot]

/sigh yes I want them to pay for their stupity, we should suspend all rescue operations so we can teach them a lesson.

/sigh

Thank you, your sarcasm or "/sigh" is duly noted. I don't know why more people did not leave for a CAT 5. But this is the situation now and it needs to be dealt with. It could just as easily have been an earthquake with no warning. That's what scares me... A catastrophe met w/ another catastrophe. The blame is not on any one person's shoulders. This was screwed up by everybody except the meteorologists that were begging the local government and citizens to evacuate.

 

[macfly]

Thank you, your sarcasm or "/sigh" is duly noted. I don't know why more people did not leave for a CAT 5. But this is the situation now and it needs to be dealt with. It could just as easily have been an earthquake with no warning. That's what scares me... A catastrophe met w/ another catastrophe. The blame is not on any one person's shoulders. This was screwed up by everybody except the meteorologists that were begging the local government and citizens to evacuate.

well said...

I wonder if those 2000lb sand bags are working. Good news is that the weather looks good for the next couple of days.

Just heard that a 8 mile long rescue convoy is right outside NO. 600 national guards should be there shortly.

 

[jarhead]

Jim brings up a good point...

The mayor was complaining that he was getting school buses for rescue transportation instead of greyhound buses.

Which one was in his original evac plan, or did he have one?

Looks like the city was not prepared and is now blaming national rescue services for thier lack of foresight.

It's important for you to protect and deflect criticism of the federal authorities and the administration, isn't it? Not Bushes fault. He didn't cause this. The blame has to be put on the mayor of that large city. You have your heroes to protect no matter how badly they screwed the pooch.

You may have totally missed the point the mayor was making, but I think you intentionally misrepresented his plea. He was not implying that he needed more luxury in buses like a Greyhound over a school bus. He was pleading that it is not enough for the scope of this calamity. They need far more transport than they have available. Do you believe that all the school buses were spared from being wrecked by flood waters? For gods sake, just look at the pictures taken all over that state with trucks and cars totally submerged, no electricity to pump gasoline even if they had vehicles, and water up to the second floors of buildings. I just cannot understand the denial some people have, and how they want to blame the victim, and deflect any criticism of federal authority.

 

[macfly]

(congressional black caucus) It was only a matter of time before some one played the race card. "The difference between those that lived and died was/is a matter of skin color and poverty level." -paraphased from the CBC spokensmen.

o well its friday, i have the day off - think I'll go wax my BMW and think of more ways to keep the black man down.

 

[jarhead]

o well its friday, i have the day off - think I'll go wax my BMW and think of more ways to keep the black man down.

Why don't you do that! You have nothing but excuses and denial to offer on these boards, and the federal government has got that area well covered.

 

[macfly]

It's important for you to protect and deflect criticism of the federal authorities and the administration, isn't it? Not Bushes fault. He didn't cause this. The blame has to be put on the mayor of that large city. You have your heroes to protect no matter how badly they screwed the pooch.

You may have totally missed the point the mayor was making, but I think you intentionally misrepresented his plea. He was not implying that he needed more luxury in buses like a Greyhound over a school bus. He was pleading that it is not enough for the scope of this calamity. They need far more transport than they have available. Do you believe that all the school buses were spared from being wrecked by flood waters? For gods sake, just look at the pictures taken all over that state with trucks and cars totally submerged, no electricity to pump gasoline even if they had vehicles, and water up to the second floors of buildings. I just cannot understand the denial some people have, and how they want to blame the victim, and deflect any criticism of federal authority.

What I was trying to point out is that the major had a shotty plan and now is having a melt down blaming the national resources. He did not have a sound plan, as you stated "he was pleading that it is not enough for the scope of this calamity." Whos fault is that? Why did'nt he have a better plan for his city.

Wait it just hit me, I know what the mayors plan was; lets put people in the superdome and let the federal government come save our collective @sses.

Not very sound.

 

[jarhead]

What I was trying to point out is that the major had a shotty plan and now is having a melt down blaming the national resources. He did not have a sound plan, as you stated "he was pleading that it is not enough for the scope of this calamity." Whos fault is that? Why did'nt he have a better plan for his city.

Wait it just hit me, I know what the mayors plan was; lets put people in the superdome and let the federal government come save our collective @sses.

Not very sound.

I give up. I'm on a fool’s errand trying to educate you. This disaster is so far beyond the scope of any mayor and any state's governor to handle, that it requires a massive federal response. How many police officers do you think N.O. has?

Here I go again. I'm going to stop replying to you on this topic for the reason stated in my second sentence above. Bye-bye, macfly.

 

[Groundpounder]

Why can't we airdrop food and water over the city, like we have done in other parts of the world?

 

[macfly]

Scamble those b52s, load em up with fried shrimp and fanta orange then procede to carpet bomb NO.

It would work with MREs, a fanta might cause some damage.

 

[Flylo]

It's clear that a month ago President Bush should have declared New Orleans "District of Columbia 2" and just taken the place over.

Seeing that the entire city and state chain of command are Democrats it was oblivious that there was no way they could be expected to take care of themselves for even a day in any sort of emergency.

I have it on good authority that in the weeks before the hurricane Bush never once called the Mayor of NO and warned him that the city might need a hurricane plan of some kind beyond going on TV and blaming somebody else.

It's Bush's fault for trusting Democrats to be able to govern themselves.

I think the whole thing is God's punishment for lettin' the queers take over the French Quarter.




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[polysciguy9]

If I remember correctly, didn't the french quarter actually fare pretty well in the whole thing? If it was an act of an angry god, she must be a big fan of irony.

 

[Sniper Bob]

Gosh, we've been busted. You have all learned about President Bush's plan: "Operation Get Rid of the Darkies".

 

[jarhead]

If I remember correctly, didn't the french quarter actually fare pretty well in the whole thing? If it was an act of an angry god, she must be a big fan of irony.

You are partially correct. The French Quarter is at a slightly higher elevation than most of the city, and the standing flood water is not as bad as other places. However, the old buildings suffered massive damage from the wind and rain of Katrina. The FQ is drier, but it is still wrecked and basically a heap of torn up buildings and debris littered streets with no power, and impassable roads due to trees and debris.