new manufacturing jobs by g.w.

[danders]

just heard on cnn news that our fearless leader just came up with the bright idea to make the jobs of flipping burgers and rolling the tacos manufacturing jobs.Way to go G.W. god bless the U.S.A.

 

[wil]

Unemployment is same as it was in 96 when Slick was running.
BTW, when the libs had the Houses and White house why didn't they fix medicare, save Social Security and all the worthless programs dear to their hearts?

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

Unemployment is same as it was in 96 when Slick was running.
BTW, when the libs had the Houses and White house why didn't they fix medicare, save Social Security and all the worthless programs dear to their hearts?

They are all talk, Bush is a very intelligent man he's just not a smooth public speaker. The Democrats give handouts instead of giving a hand; that's how they get votes.

 

[danders]

don't know what old slick did that was so wrong my taxes are still the same as before.The job market sure is in worst shape than when slick was running the place.how can you let the big business transfere jobs overseas then give them tax breaks. Kraft foods for one the top 5 executives received million dollar bounuses while they get ride of 6000 employees.and send jobs overseas.Then send how many billions to Iraq. Don't get me wrong they should take the fight to thes.o.b's. But if I remember right that it was in afganistan that the enemy was not iraq don't you think that G.W. is just doing dad's job from the last time?

 

[ferris]

Dander,
Could you at least try to form a complete sentence? Reading your posts, and trying to grasp your train of thought is pure torture. People might pay more attention to what you say if you didn't write like a ten year old.

Use the preview button...Just a thought.

Sorry all, just a pet peeve.

 

[FN FAL]

He can't help it, he's a Democrat.

 

[pilotman2105]

The job market isn't bad. You just have to look for jobs unlike prior to 9/11. The jobs will not come to you these days. I work as a Career Counselor for a midwestern university so we see the numbers everyday. Those who have jobs these days are the ones who go out there into the market, do some homework, prepare, and look hard for them.

Complain all you want that jobs have gone overseas. If the job that you're aspiring for is a $6/hr line production worker, you have a right to complain. Otherwise, do some work and don't just sit back and wait for a job to come to you.

 

[bart]

Well put pilotman.

Jobs are everywhere. I hired 17 people this week, all will make over $50K this year. My company also employs call centers in India. I guess we could have saved the high salaries for the 17 people and employed 50 in a call center, but Americans tend not to like telemarketing, nor stick with it long enough to become effective. The American call centers we use suffer close to 70% turnover in a year. In India, it is something close to zero.

Those of us hiring people tend not to hire people that whine and complain, nor those who expect us to go door to door looking for them.

The people that show they want a job, and that they want to contribute time, effort, creativity and energy to get that job, generally get it.

 

[sqwkvfr]

This is something else that I constantly wonder about:

Since when did manufacturing jobs become the end-all, be-all of jobs? I've NEVER heard a kid say that when he/she grows up, he/she wants to have a manufacturing job!

Could it be that through automation/robotics, increased productivity, and other changes that the number of manufacturing jobs per capita has been declining for a long time and the Democrats have decided to make it a political issue in this campaign because they have NOTHING in their record to tout? Could it be that manufacturing jobs are often union, thus an increase in manufacturing jobs=an increase in Democrat fundraising?

Good god, Democrats have blamed W for almost everything from global warming (Al Gore did this in New York City on one of the coldest days in it's history) to the sinking of the Titanic in the hopes that something will stick. When are people gonna start to see through this?

 

[the_dimwit]

Could someone tell me how W is supposed to keep crooked executives in companies like Kraft from receiving bonuses? I echo many of the responses in this thread -- the Dems are trying to blame W for everything. Can you sense the frustration brewing inside the Beltway?

Dim

 

[bart]

What I want to know is exactly how is John "Silver Spoon" Kerry going to make it any different? Other than raising taxes to fund more transfer programs like healthcare, just what is he going to do to create jobs? Start another WPA or CCC? You think his cronies in business are going to let him stop them outsourcing? HA, think again.

 

[Wiggums]

The Bush administration is upsetting me because they don't have the balls to stand behind Mankiw and Greenspan, two guys who are 100% correct on outsourcing. Instead, Mankiw is getting chastised for not "staying on message".

I read in USA Today this morning that outsourcing in a major issue in the coming election. WTF, don't less then 10% of employed Americans work manufacturing jobs? Outsourcing is only an issue if you have no job skills. The days of working in the town textile mill are over, the writing was on the wall twenty years ago.

 

[merikeyegro]

WTF, don't less then 10% of employed Americans work manufacturing jobs? Outsourcing is only an issue if you have no job skills. The days of working in the town textile mill are over, the writing was on the wall twenty years ago.

Spoken like a true silver-spoon pilot. You sound like my father. Are you?

Some aren't as smart and skilled as you are. Some people, like it or not, have to work those jobs to get by. I know that you think that everyone without a college degree is lazy and unambitious. Problem is that someone has to pull up the rear end. When that end is removed, we have nothing left for them to do but wait on us at Mickey D's. I guess that's OK by you, but it will cost you more in the end. Like it or not, more money in uneducated workers' pockets means more passengers on your planes. Without them, you're gonna have a tough time holding onto your job. They may not be more than 5% of your passengers, but last I checked the airlines can't handle a 5% reduction in RPMs. Check out your company's balance sheet for proof.

Please look at the big picture. Democrats AND Republicans have, for different reasons, an interest in maximum employment for all individuals, regardless of education. Contrary to belief, not every Dem wants handouts and not every GOP wants corporate tax breaks. However, manufacturing is great $ for someone with few skills but strong arms and a knack for building stuff. You have an interest this issue, just like I do.

 

[kevdog]

John "Silver Spoon" Kerry

and Dubuya doesn't have a silver spoon in his mouth? I'd say it's shoved so far down it's coming out of his a$$.

 

[Flying Illini]

Whoever can import the cheapest prescription drugs will win the election!

 

[kevdog]

just heard on cnn news that our fearless leader just came up with the bright idea to make the jobs of flipping burgers and rolling the tacos manufacturing jobs.Way to go G.W. god bless the U.S.A.

Are you talking aout George Washington?

 

[CFI'er]

Those who want to work will find a job and work until something better comes along. At least they are not receiving a handout. Those who really don’t want to work blame it on the gov’nmt in power and expect the rest of us working to pay for their lazy a$$ ways. The Sunday paper is full of job positions begging for a body to fill the need. The problem is that everyone wants to work for $20/hr or more. The $8/hr jobs go empty.

 

[AeroBoy]

Democrats have blamed W for almost everything from global warming (Al Gore did this in New York City on one of the coldest days in it's history)

Global warming myth #123: Just because it was one of the historical coldest days doesn't mean that global warming isn't happening. Scientists have been pointing out that global warming will make some areas hotter and some colder, setting off a chain reaction that changes the jet stream pattern as well as redistribution of rain (or lack thereof). Therefore, some areas will become hotter and others colder (case in point in NYC), while areas that get a lot of rain see less (or none) and desert areas receive rain. And what will this all lead to? Another Ice Age (and that sure ain't warm).

BTW, W's record on capping emissions (or more like relaxing them) sure isn't helping us any.

 

[Ivan Yankenoff]

Outsourcing is only an issue if you have no job skills.

Tell that to my three engineering friends at Motorola. The cell phone many of you are using was most likely develped by one of them meanwhile Motorola's goal is to send "every possible engineering job overseas by mid 2005."

Tell that to my brother-in-law who graduated with a double major in electrical engineering and computer science and then went on to recieve a law degree. Meanwhile he is fluent in Japanese and represents numurous companies in intellectual property theft lawsuits and has written numerous law papers on the subject. At last count he had well over 100 patents to his name that are property of Motorola and AMD. His full-time position with AMD is going bye-bye to China. Not that he can't survive on his skills but his position with AMD sure as hell takes more job skills than 99.9% of the US public has.

The days of working in the town textile mill are over, the writing was on the wall twenty years ago.

This is fine and dandy until the day comes along and our country needs those textile mills and plants to make things like soldiers uniforms, boots, vehicles, guns, ammo, protection devices, etc. Sure would be nice to have access to those things instead of asking our potential enemy if they could find it in their hearts to make them for us.

The problem is that everyone wants to work for $20/hr or more. The $8/hr jobs go empty.

Hmm, I've applied for 60 plus jobs in the 8-12/hour range and until just the other day hadn't had one reply. These are positions that I have had years of experience in prior to aviation. I was told by quite a few that there was no way they would hire me because it was obvious that I would be leaving as soon as the airlines came back around.

 

[Timebuilder]

don't know what old slick did that was so wrong my taxes are still the same as before.The job market sure is in worst shape than when slick was running the place.how can you let the big business transfere jobs overseas then give them tax breaks. Kraft foods for one the top 5 executives received million dollar bounuses while they get ride of 6000 employees.and send jobs overseas.Then send how many billions to Iraq. Don't get me wrong they should take the fight to thes.o.b's. But if I remember right that it was in afganistan that the enemy was not iraq don't you think that G.W. is just doing dad's job from the last time?

You know, when I first read this thread, I thought you were just a flamer. Now, I think I understand that you just don't understand the economics of national policy.

The reason you were doing well under slick willy wasn't because of any policy he had provided. It was because of both wealthy people and middleclass people all investing in the market. Then the market was unable to stand on the speculative weight of the dot com industry, and the whole deal collapsed. This is the situation that Bush inherited. Is the lack of jobs any way the fault of any Bush policy? No, there is nothing there to support that idea. Are jobs that are going overseas the result of any policy by any president? No. NAFTA and GATT were meant to keep us from beng economically isolated, and economists agree that open trade is the right move for the US.

Changing the standards for defining manufacturing jobs changes nothing. Changing our culture to compete with hard working nations who are goal-oriented will change things for the better.