New jet blue payscale?

[$$$4nothin]

If you were junior at jB and had the chance to go to SWA would you go? (considering the long upgrade time and merger strife at SWA)

As of today yes. At the end of 2015 if we are close to a ratified CBA and a 3000 pilot group with most likely a new management team. I don't think so. Gotta make the best decisions you can at the time you have that info though.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

I don't have a history of making particularly good decisions in this business. There have been a lot of regrets over the years. Guess I should've added, 40 years old, family, commute from the Midwest (and can't move for about four more years).

 

[pilotpayne]

I don't have a history of making particularly good decisions in this business. There have been a lot of regrets over the years.

If you are looking for movement jetblue.
If you want a known cba/union Southwest.

I will stick with blue, now if major called me( they won't)
I would most likely go.
I think if executed right jetblue can do very well or we fall apart and someone swoops in to pick up what's left.

 

[exagony]

Would you leave an eternal (ie 9+ year and no reasonable outlook to upgrade any time soon) FO position at a fractional to go to JetBlue?

 

[CaptainSpaz]

Thanks. Apparently I opened a hugh j ass can of worms. Sorry bout that, just wanted to see rates were to get an idea what Spirit is going to be looking at in 2015

Don't sweat it, every new thread on this board with JetBlue in the subject line is opening a new huge can of worms.

Try starting a thread titled "JetBlue is against clubbing baby seals" and you will get the same 5 guys telling you that logic clearly dictates that baby seals must die at the hands of humans with clubs and if you don't support that you are a lemming, sheep, tool, shill, etc. If we get a CBA, everyone will have the contractual right to club baby seals.

 

[clickclickboom]

$$$for nothih

Our healthcare cost certainly is a major factor in our take home pay. I understand the original post however many potential applicants dont know, dont realize, or are just blind to the fact that a family plan with a couple minor doctor events can easily skim 13,000 to 15k off someones bottom line.

They need to know before they sign up and realize their child has autism or wife needs surgery

 

[$$$4nothin]

$$$for nothih

Our healthcare cost certainly is a major factor in our take home pay. I understand the original post however many potential applicants dont know, dont realize, or are just blind to the fact that a family plan with a couple minor doctor events can easily skim 13,000 to 15k off someones bottom line.

They need to know before they sign up and realize their child has autism or wife needs surgery

I completely agree. I am all for educating people completely and with as much info as possible. However I conduct all my pro union stance with facts vs. scare style statements. These statements do more to hurt our group of professionals than to help us so I do not tolerate untrue statements. Our only health care option is a disgusting high deductible low coverage option. However saying we have to cover all the cost ourselves is simple untrue.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

Would you leave an eternal (ie 9+ year and no reasonable outlook to upgrade any time soon) FO position at a fractional to go to JetBlue?

A lot of comparison would need to be made... Pay, healthcare, all the usual stuff...where do you live, commute issues etc...family concerns....I would not move to a base personally - others do....

 

[johnsonrod]

Would you leave an eternal (ie 9+ year and no reasonable outlook to upgrade any time soon) FO position at a fractional to go to JetBlue?

No. Not unless there was movement on a union. Several other airlines hiring including the legacies. I hear Spirit has hired several fractional pilots recently (CitationAir and Avantair) and upgrade time is short - something like 4-5 years with many pilot bases.

 

[XJohXJ]

.............

Unfortunately, satisfaction is not found at FI.

 

[likeitis]

Could someone give specifics about the health plan? Individual only. Price, deductible, etc. PM if you rather. Thanks in advance.

 

[aewanabe]

Would you leave an eternal (ie 9+ year and no reasonable outlook to upgrade any time soon) FO position at a fractional to go to JetBlue?

Yes, and I'm as pessimistic as most on this board. The caveat being your ability/desire to commute, and your healthcare liabilities (read family). Stating that our medical benefits are obscene is a massive understatement.

 

[pilotpayne]

No. Not unless there was movement on a union. Several other airlines hiring including the legacies. I hear Spirit has hired several fractional pilots recently (CitationAir and Avantair) and upgrade time is short - something like 4-5 years with many pilot bases.

Good thing you didn't get hired at blue.

Get that spirit interview yet?

 

[RideandDrive]

Spirit upgrade is down to 2.5 years and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets shorter.

 

[johnsonrod]

Good thing you didn't get hired at blue.

Get that spirit interview yet?

Working on Spirit along with some interviews at the legacies. I have a few good buddies at Spirit and they are quite happy.