New jet blue payscale?

[suupah]

Can someone post the new jet blue payscale? I hear it's pretty good!

 

[spudskier]

Serious? or

 

[linepilot]

When you factor in the LOSS of: healthcare, overtime pay, 1330 trip rigs, productivity, profit sharing, A321 differential, joinder, 3a, annual pay review, the addition of dozens of loop-holes, the possibility of fragmentation, and a fleet plan that has everyone flying 20% more passengers for ZERO in additional pay then the new rates are just a marketing tool devised by jetblew's third party experts.

Jetblew ALWAYS finds a way to reach around and get back what they tell you they're giving you. In the end, it is zero cost to them.

And now they want to dress you up like a flight attendant.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Look at average pay rates in the industry and subtract at least 10%. Benefits, marginal at best.

 

[$$$4nothin]

Can someone post the new jet blue payscale? I hear it's pretty good!

Add 13% to all of the pay scales in APC except 1st year pay. No pay increase for first year pilots. However you also need to take away the 78 hour trigger for time and a half. Time and a half no longer exists in the form it used to. So all flying is strait time pay. Time and a half exist at the company's discretion now and also for selling PTO back. For example a 2nd year A-320 FO was making $72/hr is now making $81.36/hr. This is for 2014 only. 2015 and 2016 are 3.5% raises each year. These pay rates will apply to all new hires, but will not necessarily apply to current pilots. If you don't sign this current pea change and want to keep the 78 hour premium trigger and the old work rules you can. Old pea is better for some. New pea is better for some.

 

[Blue Dude]

What's really pathetic is that even 13% isn't enough of an incentive to sign. Should be a slam dunk, right? But no! For many pilots, at least 13% is being taken away with some of the above mentioned items so the "raise" is actually a net loss!

Face it, no voters, the only way to stop the bleeding is with a CBA. At least with that methodology we'll be able to weigh pros and cons for ourselves and even -gasp- have real input and vote on them. It beats passively discovering what our new package is going to be and being told to take it or leave it, with none of that messy listening or negotiating to impede JetBlue's wise paternal guardianship of our careers.

 

[Ski-N-Fly]

Hourly pay rates mean nothing without proper work rules to back them up. Guess what......the company is currently rewriting the work rules using FAR 117 as the excuse to circumvent pilot approval (not that they need it anyway). And when are the new work rules being rolled out for all to see? After everyone signs or declines the new PEA (new pay rates). So we as a pilot group have to decide our fate without knowing how the work rules will affect our decision. Fair? I think not. Gotta love the direct relationship.

For the love of God, please help us vote in a union so we can end this experiment gone wrong! Santa? Can you hear me?

 

[suupah]

Thanks. Apparently I opened a hugh j ass can of worms. Sorry bout that, just wanted to see rates were to get an idea what Spirit is going to be looking at in 2015

 

[Smarta$$]

Current rates times +13%. Jan 2015 +3.5%. Jan 2016 +3.5%

 

[Blue Dude]

In short, the top A320 rate will be $189.00 in 2014, $195.62 in 2015 and $202.47 in 2016. Hopefully we'll be well into CBA talks before any more pay discussions or takeaways are evident, so this is it from us for a while.