New First Officer posting for Hawaiian

[NEDude]

Anyone know how many people applied for the 30-40 open spots?

 

[Hansoma]

Thousands

 

[Jet_Dreamer]

did they take the listing down from their web site already?
how long was it up, a week??
geezzzzz!:bawling:

 

[HAL]

Yes, the listing is down. They had well over 1000 applications during the time it was up, called 300 for interviews, and will put about 100 in the pool. This first round of vacancies will bring maybe 25 or 30 into HA for training, with the rest swimming until later next year for additional hiring.

HAL

 

[landlover]

Yes, the listing is down. They had well over 1000 applications during the time it was up, called 300 for interviews, and will put about 100 in the pool. This first round of vacancies will bring maybe 25 or 30 into HA for training, with the rest swimming until later next year for additional hiring.

HAL

So if I haven't gotten a call to interview yet, should I not expect one in the near future?

 

[HAL]

Since I am getting a bucket full of PM's with essentially the same questions, here's what I (don't) know: This week they started interviewing the people who filled out their online apps from this window. I don't know how many they've called yet out of the 300 or so (hearsay) they plan on interviewing. I don't know if they've called all 300 yet. Originally they planned on doing all 300 interviews, then calling back the 'winners' for the psych eval & physical. But I heard today that some of Monday's interviewees were called that evening to do the psych & physical today. So the short answer is - things change by the minute, and since I don't work for the HR department, I really don't know at all what is going on with the process, or how far along it is. If you haven't been called yet, you might, or you might not, and that's about as precise as I can be. Sorry folks, but they're keeping this one pretty hushed up.

HAL

 

[bruddahgoose]

Hal, thanks for the update; a few of us who interviewed last year then again last week are just wondering when we're going to get that next call. Hopefully we won't have to wait as long this time around.

 

[landlover]

thanks hal

 

[jmt]

I heard there's a small class (don't know how many pilots) scheduled sometime next month.

 

[BoeingBaller]

Does anyone have any current interview gouge?

 

[sluggo]

What was the interview process like last year?

Absolutely ridiculous, romper room antics,
the HR department at that airline is pathetic!

 

[xanderman]

Absolutely ridiculous, romper room antics,
the HR department at that airline is pathetic!

I take it you did not get the job...

 

[migration]

Phase II interview invitations for next week went out as of last night and today. Good luck to all who got the call!!!

 

[808pilot]

is that phase II the one where you meet with HR and take the tests? or where you take the last big pysch eval?....

 

[migration]

The phase II I'm talking about is the 2nd interview where u supposedly do the pick a hat thing, and other timed tests. Have u done this portion yet?

 

[808pilot]

i have...shoot me a pm....

 

[metrodriver808]

i have...shoot me a pm....

Congrats! Don't forget your AQ classmates after you get in!

 

[808pilot]

i need to be more clear....i have only interviewed...nothing more.....fingers crossed though.....

 

[HAL]

From snippets I've heard: Phase 1 - panel interview (pilots, FA's, & HR) and sim ride. If you pass, you go to Phase 2 - timed tests & psych interview. If you pass, you wait for a spot, at which time you go to Phase 3 - physical. Barring no medical hiccups, you get a class date.

Good luck to all!

HAL

 

[bruddahgoose]

Last week, bunch of us who went through phase 1 and 2 last year and who got called for phase 1 again few weeks ago, went in to interview with management pilots. We were told that something like 30 pilots to hire this year with a class scheduled in September. Anybody got the call yet for the September class?

 

[HAL]

I'm not 100% positive, but I don't think any calls have gone out yet. My guess is that they're waiting for this next group to go through the Phase 2 psych eval next week so they'll have enough in the pool to fill the class. That means probably a couple more weeks before anyone knows if they're in or not. Good luck to all!

HAL

 

[jmt]

I heard that another vacancy bid just came out today. Anybody saw it?

 

[Hansoma]

34 newhires.

 

[jmt]

Thanks!

 

[Junkflyer]

32 positions for the Airbus, but they are reducing 76 slots by 5 and 71 captains by 3.

 

[HAL]

All but two of the cancelled positions were unfilled - the two cancelled with people in them are HNL 767 captains. The rest of the positions weren't filled with the class hired earlier this summer. That leaves a total of 34 new-hires coming on with this vacancy bid.

HAL

 

[whymeworry?]

Some place in the states is actually hiring!!!!

This industry doesn't completely suck now!!!

You have to move to Hawaii though, unless you want to sign up for the country's ********************tiest commute.

Yeah but hiring at what cost? Two major Hawaii markets players were driven out of business (ATA and AQ) in order to get to the point where the only big one left is able to hire again. What a sad state of affairs this industry is in.

Good thing they changed the age-60 law for that impending pilot shortage :erm:.

 

[HAL]

Two major Hawaii markets players were driven out of business (ATA and AQ) in order to get to the point where the only big one left is able to hire again.

Sorry, but I don't buy it. HA didn't do anything illegal, immoral, or unethical. They did absolutely nothing to 'drive the other airlines out of business'. AQ and ATA went under because they had bad business plans, and their management wasn't ready to deal with rapid changes in the world economy.

The whole world is in economic turmoil right now. To expect the airlines to sail through this without a hint of turbulence is ridiculous. Of course the airlines will shrink. Of course they will furlough. If they don't, they die. To call this a 'sad state of affairs' for the industry is much too narrow a view. It's merely the way to survive. Every industry in the world is hurting, aviation is no different. If we want to have a job in 10 years we'd better expect our companies to be cutting costs, and looking for any way possible to stay alive until the world economy turns around because if they don't, then we really will be the same place as the pilots of other poorly run airlines - like AQ and ATA.

It's honestly just how the world works. If you expected to stay with the smooth growth pattern, to upgrade at a regional in one year, move to a major the next and upgrade in five, or if you expected to have a jucy and untouched pension plan, then buy a history book, read it thoroughly, and then call Kit Darby to ask for a refund. Life just doesn't go that smoothly. If you're prepared for turbulence, then you'll be pleased when you can turn off the seatbelt signs.

HAL

 

[Junkflyer]

You're pretty much right on HAL. Getting hired with Hawaiian now is like winning the pilot lottery.

 

[Cardinal]

I don't think whymeworry had any malice in hi post, only sadness. It for darn sure wasn't HA that sunk the other airlines. Mesa suicide-bombed AQ, and TZ mgmt snatched defeat from the jaws of victory all on their own.