New Dash Video--hopfully not gay

[Booker]

If it's finance-related, and especially if it came from an airline, it does not turn to dust before I do. But that's what I'm saying here; I keep track of all this sh!t till death, so I've really exhausted all possibilities here, short of tracking down the CA and having him sign an affidavit. But as I remember, he was usually busy with some woman at any given time, otherwise it'd be really practical for me to do.

 

[Sig]

True dat.

 

[Booker]

Meanwhile, in other news...

I was a junior FO but knew this was a dumbass thing to do since my face almost hit the prop sinc.

Yup, concur, especially in the Dash. There's very little reason to slam folks into the seat backs in that airplane. (And before anybody else decides to jump Booker's shi!t tonight, in nearly 1500 hours in type, I never, ever put the f**king thing into reverse, not once, not even in a 300, not even on my last GD trip!) Anyway, it always makes me shake my head when I see guys in the jet grease it on 2800 feet down the runway while doing Vref+15 at 50% N1, only to force everyone to brace while they "make that next high-speed." Yeah, real smooth. Oh, and I don't fly for Mesa as previously slandered. Go from PDT to Mesa? Uh-huh, whatever.

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

Are you kidding me? You've talked so much freaking cr@p about Piedmont, the Dash 8, the pilot group... and you work here now!??!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! pwned

first year pay sealed the deal :0

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Got a flight number? Still doubt a 300 went in there. The reason I call boolsheet is the fact we're always, always, always overweight in the 100. It makes good sense to drive a 300 into HHH, which totally precludes it ever going into there...

***I'm not saying you made it up, Booker. I'm saying in light of how this place runs, I'm hard pressed to believe they'd make such a smart choice.

Ok...

4/26/04, flight 4189 CLT-HXD. Dash 8-311 N335EN.

That is one time, a quick look shows me doing it about a dozen times over a 9 month period.

 

[Sig]

Ok...

4/26/04, flight 4189 CLT-HXD. Dash 8-311 N335EN.

That is one time, a quick look shows me doing it about a dozen times over a 9 month period.

I'll be DAN MED. It makes too much sense to send a 300 in there... so they won't! But... did. WOW. Yup, I was dead wrong.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

I'll be DAN MED. It makes too much sense to send a 300 in there... so they won't! But... did. WOW. Yup, I was dead wrong.

Yeah, we could carry 50 pax in. The problem was, even with a flaps 15 TO, it was impossible to carry 50 out. IIRC, I think the best I ever did was 41 folks and that was with not so much gas. God help you if you had to depart toward the lumber yard on 21.

The -200 makes the most sense out of there. Unless it is wicked hot and you have to use 21, you could make full folks+bags happen out of there. I wonder how a Q400 would do? Shoot are the taxiways even stressed for that kind of wieght?

 

[Booker]

Yup, I was dead wrong.

Um, yeah. Did you even see my final edit to post #54? I give you a date, trip number, flight number, block times, tail number, and crew info and get nothing, but LPC posts three out of the six and suddenly the light is seen? WTF man? By the way, maybe look at my subsequent post, below, before responding.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Um, yeah. Did you even see my final edit to post #54? I give you a date, trip number, flight number, block times, tail number, and crew info and get nothing, but LPC posts three out of the six and suddenly the light is seen? WTF man?

I guess I am just more reliable! (Jokes man, Jokes!)

I actually commited the cardinal flightinfo sin and didn't look ahead to see that someone had already replied to sig. Sorry for stepping on your toes.

 

[Booker]

I guess I am just more reliable! (Jokes man, Jokes!)

Yeah, anyone who flew with me at PDT knows how reliable I can be! I didn't think you were stepping on my toes at all; I actually appreciated the backup. If anything, it's my bad; I should have created a new post vice editing the old one after Sig had already responded. No hard feelings towards anyone on this thread. I'm just bitter because I could have download a lot of porn in the time it took to get this all sorted out.

Much love...

 

[dhc8fo]

I just made a quick check of my book too... over six years and never a 300 into HHH. Always a 100 or 200. Also, 15/1050 in the 300 was a NO NO for a long time.

 

[Ty Webb]

I don't get what the big deal is flying a T-prop into Hilton Head. I've flown corporate jets into there that had Vrefs similar to the B737 . . . . pretty tame compared to some others.

 

[Booker]

I just made a quick check of my book too... over six years and never a 300 into HHH. Always a 100 or 200. Also, 15/1050 in the 300 was a NO NO for a long time.

Yeah, I flew with a lot of people who used 35/max for the reduced pitch attitude. I heard the latest guidance from the temple of doom is that 15/1050 is the preferred configuration. Are they recommending that for the 300 as well?

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Yeah, I flew with a lot of people who used 35/max for the reduced pitch attitude. I heard the latest guidance from the temple of doom is that 15/1050 is the preferred configuration. Are they recommending that for the 300 as well?

15/1050 makes it a little easier to hit the tail, I think. Personally, I don't like the way it flies at 1050, but that is just me. I've done it, don't see anything wrong with it. Just need to carry more speed to keep the nose down.

I have noticed a lot of ALG guys I fly with love to get the pitch in the -100/-200 up around 10 degrees or so... . Not my cup of tea.

 

[Sig]

Um, yeah. By the way, maybe look at my subsequent post, below, before responding.

Yup, I was wrong. You are right.

 

[FirstMate]

.....
And why doesn't anyone use reverse...reverse thrust on this airplane is extemely effictive and if you haven't had too much coffee, you can manage how much you use before it gets incredibly loud and uncomfortable. Its cool to use every now and then...

 

[dhc8fo]

.....
And why doesn't anyone use reverse...reverse thrust on this airplane is extemely effictive and if you haven't had too much coffee, you can manage how much you use before it gets incredibly loud and uncomfortable. Its cool to use every now and then...

because it isn't necessary...disc works just fine.

 

[medfly]

Who was the tune by?

Who was the turn by?

 

[DC8 Flyer]

that makes no sence, you must of flown a dash for like a week or maybee flunked soe before you went to fly at mesa, because your statement makes you sound retarded to dash pilots

It has been stated already, but I took the might -300 in HHH on more than one trip, EWN line even. Had one of the best captains at PDT show me a short field in PGV on the West runway (forget the numbers) and turned off on the first taxiway (my last flight segment with PDT). I used reverse once, to stop short of the snow drifts

Just to puff Booker up, one of the smartest and best pilots flying pax right now, might wanna think twice about comming down on him for anything he says.

 

[DC8 Flyer]

Yeah, I flew with a lot of people who used 35/max for the reduced pitch attitude. I heard the latest guidance from the temple of doom is that 15/1050 is the preferred configuration. Are they recommending that for the 300 as well?

Full stall paul comes to mind.

 

[Booker]

Just to puff Booker up, one of the smartest and best pilots flying pax right now, might wanna think twice about comming down on him for anything he says.

Lies, all lies, but thanks for the support. And regarding your second post, yeah, that's what/who I was thinking, too.

(Hey, give me a call some time, especially if you're in HOU.)

 

[FirstMate]

because it isn't necessary...disc works just fine.

Its approved and when used accordingly, its not so obnoxious to your tender little ears and those precious redneck passengers we haul. Throw it into reverse and then into disc and you get full reversing effects from the props without the loudass aftermath.

 

[OPECJet]

With these new summer weights, I'm using a touch of reverse on a lot of -300 landings when its full. Speed card advertises 116 or so ref, but the speed bug is saying you're on speed at 130+. I'll take the speed bug....

Havne't flown a 300 into the Head, and have desire to do so. I do know its been done by plenty of people though.

15/1050 is recommended for all 3 types now, unless its not approved for the conditions.

It's not the length of the runway at HHH, its the width. You don't have much room between the tires and the dirt at that place. These guys that freak out about the joint and start screaming max and 35 actually amuse me....

Booker, I just figured out who you are... How's life treat'n ya?

 

[FirstMate]

I get a kick out of the guys that stand the throttles up in HHH and hold the brakes like we're some kind of heavy Boeing. Where is it in the manual that we're supposed to do this? Haven't found it yet...

 

[Booker]

I get a kick out of the guys that stand the throttles up in HHH and hold the brakes like we're some kind of heavy Boeing. Where is it in the manual that we're supposed to do this? Haven't found it yet...

I certainly don't remember what the POH states, but aren't rolling takeoffs actually allowed under an exemption, otherwise they'd have to be standing? I'm not taking a position here, just trying to remember.

Opec: Things have been good. I seriously can't complain, except when I look at my checking account. It was a good move for me, but to each his own, you know. Heck, I probably wouldn't be living in CLT now anyway! If you ever want to shoot the bull, send me a PM and I'll give you my contact info.

 

[OPECJet]

Booker, you're right on. There is an exemption that allows rolling takeoffs.

Glad things are working out for you. Things are sure hell for us CLT and PHF/ORF folks these days.

 

[dashjockey]

15/1050 makes it a little easier to hit the tail, I think. Personally, I don't like the way it flies at 1050, but that is just me. I've done it, don't see anything wrong with it. Just need to carry more speed to keep the nose down.

I have noticed a lot of ALG guys I fly with love to get the pitch in the -100/-200 up around 10 degrees or so... . Not my cup of tea.

yeah cause runnin for 5+minutes at max when the wx is not even close to minimums is so much better on your ears and the pax nerves

 

[JohnnyP]

....

Firstmate, behave yourself.

 

[RobCat]

Nice Video.

 

[dash_trash]

Nice Video.

Certainly miss the Mighty Dash, and the folks at PDT.

Full-stall Paul ... did a couple of test flights with him, after hours. You never knew what you were in for. As for landing, 15 and 900 makes for a nice quite appoach.