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[SKC]

Nothing other than the -800 and the 717.

 

[shagadelic]

Nothing other than the -800 and the 717.

Gary Kelly has said within a few years he envisions Europe out of Baltimore. You're not doing that in an -800 or 717. I wouldn't be surprised if we get 787's in 2015. The International Lease Finance Corporation is getting 74 of them starting in late 2014. Who are they for??? Things that make you go hmmm.

 

[scoreboardII]

That "can't get IT to get our international stuff figured out" is probably a ruse to keep the two entities separate and continue the cost savings for aslong as possible.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

That "can't get IT to get our international stuff figured out" is probably a ruse to keep the two entities separate and continue the cost savings for aslong as possible.

Just like your signature line says.

 

[SKC]

That "can't get IT to get our international stuff figured out" is probably a ruse to keep the two entities separate and continue the cost savings for aslong as possible.

Well, it is 100% IT right now in regards to intl flight planning, but it will be possible before too long. They are writing the code to allow the current system to plan intl and multi-fleet right now. The new flight planning system won't be deployed until 4Q12 (which will have all the bells and whistles needed for ETOPs, multi-fleet, etc), so they are retrofitting SWIFT with some fixes for the time being.

 

[dicko]

They are writing the code to allow the current system to plan intl and multi-fleet right now..

When they invent this magical device, perhaps they'll sell it to all of the other companies that are trapped on the mainland with only one fleet type.

It will be a miracle.

 

[SKC]

When they invent this magical device, perhaps they'll sell it to all of the other companies that are trapped on the mainland with only one fleet type.

It will be a miracle.

Nothing magical about computer code that allows a flight planning system to do something that it hadn't been designed to do when it was built nearly 20 years ago.

 

[Flying the Line]

Pretty sure it's reservations limitations, after all, planes have flying to el Salvador for several years now.

 

[humveedriver]

What's the history with that anyway? I was told SWA has about 2000 IT employees to AirTrans 100. We farmed that stuff out. Was it because American owned Sabre or something?

 

[PCL_128]

I think it's about 1,000 IT employees.

 

[SKC]

Pretty sure it's reservations limitations, after all, planes have flying to el Salvador for several years now.

The flight planning for El Salvador is being done with a secondary system that is not adequate for revenue domestic/flag ops due to the workload. It takes many times as long to compute and send a plan via that system than it does with SWIFT. So, yes it does still have to do with flight planning (as well as res).

 

[SWA717]

when they invent this magical device, perhaps they'll sell it to all of the other companies that are trapped on the mainland with only one fleet type.

It will be a miracle.

lol!!!!

 

[outerlimits]

The flight planning for El Salvador is being done with a secondary system that is not adequate for revenue domestic/flag ops due to the workload. It takes many times as long to compute and send a plan via that system than it does with SWIFT. So, yes it does still have to do with flight planning (as well as res).

So what is the buzz over there, when will they have it ready .

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

why should the airtran pilots be paid less (B Scale) to do the same flying plus International Flying for Southwest till Jan. 2015? Doesn't sound fair or treating your fellow employee like you would want to be treated? Double Standard maybe?

The AirTran MEC was told by Gary Kelly et al that if they turned down SL-9 then the SWA pay rates would be taken off the table and not put back. The ATN MEC voting down SL-9 sealed the deal.

They were warned of this and still they chose to give SWA the middle finger.

Double standard? Nope. Just Gary Kelly doing what he told them he would do.

 

[Spud]

The AirTran MEC was told by Gary Kelly et al that if they turned down SL-9 then the SWA pay rates would be taken off the table and not put back. The ATN MEC voting down SL-9 sealed the deal.

They were warned of this and still they chose to give SWA the middle finger.

Double standard? Nope. Just Gary Kelly doing what he told them he would do.

So it's OK to do whatever you want as long as you told 'em beforehand??

"Look Officer, I told him I was gonna kill him, then I did."

 

[outerlimits]

So it's OK to do whatever you want as long as you told 'em beforehand??

"Look Officer, I told him I was gonna kill him, then I did."

Is this Gary guy the CEO?

If so then I would say yes, it is his company.

For some reason I thought murder is against the law. I am sure if this Gary guy shot someone he would go to jail.

Just look at Doug Parker

 

[ASADFW7]

The whole Swa/AT integration debate was major league, and in my opinion both pilot groups didn't see the end result coming.

 

[Spud]

The whole Swa/AT integration debate was major league, and in my opinion both pilot groups didn't see the end result coming.

That's for true.

I do think it's telling though how AA went on a costly slow-down just so the Reno guys wouldn't have one day at B-scale and SWAPA gives GK 3 years.

Be very careful this summer during section 6, how you (we?) play the B scale game. I think it's like scope... hard to put the Genie back in the bottle. Hopefully GK will proceed more honorably than he did with us.

 

[Ty Webb]

The AirTran MEC was told by Gary Kelly et al that if they turned down SL-9 then the SWA pay rates would be taken off the table and not put back. The ATN MEC voting down SL-9 sealed the deal.

They were warned of this and still they chose to give SWA the middle finger.

Double standard? Nope. Just Gary Kelly doing what he told them he would do.

Yawn.

No one gave anyone the finger . . . . . although, I'm sure if you keep dredging the issue up, someone will eventually give one to you. :laugh:

It's over, Rover . . . . Let it go already.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

It's over, Rover . . . . Let it go already.

I have been over it a long time.

Just stating why AirTran pilots are being paid "B-scale" wages. At least until Jan 1, 2015. Your MEC chose that path.