New 170's for Compass

[RJLoser]

March 1, 2011


Delta continues to replace the less fuel-efficient 50-seat aircraft with customer-preferred dual-class 70-seat aircraft.

Delta Connection carrier Compass Airlines said Tuesday it has concluded negotiations to add 12 70-seat Embraer EMB 170 aircraft to its fleet starting in May through early next year, bringing the carrier’s fleet to 48 aircraft.

“We are committed to working very hard to secure opportunities for growth that will make sense and add value to our network, and we certainly feel that this adds value to Compass Airlines and to Trans States Holdings,” said Rick Leach, president-Trans States Inc, parent of Compass, in a memo to employees. “Growth comes when you have a company with an excellent reputation, and an efficient and high quality product, supported by a positive, motivated and driven group of professionals. And that is Compass Airlines.”

The Compass announcement supports Delta’s 2011 Flight Plan goals to achieve a Delta Connection experience consistent with the mainline operation, including product, boarding and airport operations, and to improve fuel consumption per block hour through ground, flight and aircraft initiatives.

 

[777forever]

Damn whoever went to Compass last year is going to get a quick upgrade.

 

[NWaviator]

Boy oh boy.... I am sure glad I passed up on the Compass interview offer last July. Thus far in my aviation career I have only make bad decisions. One of these days it might go my way.

 

[Abernathy]

Damn whoever went to Compass last year is going to get a quick upgrade.

True, but the real question is, what the heck did you type into google to find your avatar?

I tried: Nasty, Skank, Ho, Badonkadonk, Phat, Fat, and Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.

Didn't find it.

 

[248to2.8]

Try Republic FA?

 

[CX880]

Who cares, it's just another RJ operator now that theres no delta flow. More E170s and less Delta jets is all it is.

 

[Jar Jar]

If the world is going to have RJs, as a commuter I'd rather see them use ERJs over CRJs.

But..

DAL needs to tighten up their scope this round, big time.

 

[ex j-41]

ERJ's are too stiff. The ride in a CRJ is far better. If you want to puke take a ride in an ERJ.

 

[Freebrd]

Damn whoever went to Compass last year is going to get a quick upgrade.

the other guy on the other thread was right, 777 creaming himself :nuts:

 

[Flybywire44]

ASA would be wise to get a 170 or c series program.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

If the world is going to have RJs, as a commuter I'd rather see them use ERJs over CRJs.

But..

DAL needs to tighten up their scope this round, big time.

We relaxed scope a bit to allow these to fly for CPZ. I believe it's an additional 2% 401k matching in return.

 

[On Your Six]

If the world is going to have RJs, as a commuter I'd rather see them use ERJs over CRJs.

But..

DAL needs to tighten up their scope this round, big time.

This was expected, because the limit for 76 seats has not been hit yet, but it will shortly. Skywest added some, and now Compass will. Everyone is watching the UAL/CAL guys on how they do with Scope issues in their new joint contract, and management of course is watching too, adding planes up until the end. But yes, there is a limit.


OYS

 

[RJLoser]

We relaxed scope a bit to allow these to fly for CPZ. I believe it's an additional 2% 401k matching in return.

Foolish.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

This was expected, because the limit for 76 seats has not been hit yet, but it will shortly. Skywest added some, and now Compass will. Everyone is watching the UAL/CAL guys on how they do with Scope issues in their new joint contract, and management of course is watching too, adding planes up until the end. But yes, there is a limit.


OYS

the 76 seat cap is hit. These are 70 seat planes and delta is still about 15 shy after these 12 get added.

 

[Top Gum]

Who cares, it's just another RJ operator now that theres no delta flow. More E170s and less Delta jets is all it is.

Does Compass still have that flow program to delta or is it gone now?

 

[GOULET!]

The flow is still in place for those hired on August 15, 2010 and before. Everybody hired after that date are not elegible. Anybody hired at Compass now will still see far more movement and faster upgrade than anywhere else as long as Delta hires sometime in the near future. We all know with everything going on in the world right now that its anybody's guess when that may be.

 

[On Your Six]

The flow is still in place for those hired on August 15, 2010 and before. Everybody hired after that date are not elegible. Anybody hired at Compass now will still see far more movement and faster upgrade than anywhere else as long as Delta hires sometime in the near future. We all know with everything going on in the world right now that its anybody's guess when that may be.

There will be 2000 Delta retirements in the next 5 years, and 4000 total within the next 10 years. That is a lot of movement, regardless of what is going on in the World. Most of the retiring pilots will not wait until 65 either. The floodgates will open in the next couple years probably.


OYS

 

[wmuflyguy]

There will be 2000 Delta retirements in the next 5 years, and 4000 total within the next 10 years. That is a lot of movement, regardless of what is going on in the World. Most of the retiring pilots will not wait until 65 either. The floodgates will open in the next couple years probably.


OYS

Retirements start in Dec 2012 right? Depending on oil and world affairs should see some hiring late this year. I don't see how the airlines can get a whole lot leaner other than going out of business and I think DL is way down on that list (too big to fail comes to mind).

 

[mesaba13]

I think the number at Delta is more like 9000 in the next 10-11 years!
Look on Deltanet.

 

[atpcliff]

And the Flight/Duty/Rest changes coming 1 aug, and the ATP requirement coming 1 Aug, 2013.

BUT, they may go to Age 70, or no age limit at some point...