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But, but..... Fox news is "fair and balanced" hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Anyone else notice how the right wing chicks on fox are smoking hot and the left wing girls always look like a foot? I think that is funny.
 
The difference is that pilots don't go in strike to cause pain to the traveling public. They go on strike to attempt to get what they think they are worth. The pain felt by the public is a byproduct.

This is a pure political stunt. The FAA budget covers much more than controller salaries. They could have cut other in other areas or cut salaries across the board and still maintained staffing at previous levels.

Not sure if its true but I heard that controllers are getting 3 furlough days a year. 1 every 4 months. I'm sure they call in sick more than that. It doesn't add up.

Controllers are forced to take a furlough day once a pay period, or two a month. A friend of mine with Chicago Center says that translates to 30-40 fewer people a day.

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Yes they control the spending, but sequestration was originally obama's idea that his cronies in congress put into law. The reason we are here in sequester is because the republicans finally got the balls to say "NO" to more spending (the responsible thing to do) and push for a more fiscally responsible budget. It is the democrats that are unwilling to make cuts so we don't bankrupt our country. They are too concerned with sending money back to their voting block... They spend my tax dollars to buy votes from those who don't pay taxes. I am under no illusions that republicans don't do the same thing, the difference is that when pressure is applied to republicans, they tend to do the conservative thing, the dems are only concerned with pandering to the uninformed voters... unfortunately with the culture and education system in this country today, the uninformed voter (you) are growing faster than the informed.
Can you honestly say that you think this country is on the right path..... how is our current level of spending and government outreach sustainable?

So I'm uninformed because I do not adhere to the conservative philosophy? Get off your high horse, and walk around a bit with the common folk...

And no, I do not think we are on the right path. I think we need a single payer (nationalized) healthcare system. We need to go back to the tax structure of the 1950s that made it less appealing to pay CEOs astronomical salaries just to gut a company. We need to rediscover our sense of duty to our fellow men, and remember that national pride isn't about patriotism, it's about dragging OUR poor out of the gutters.

We have a massive imbalance of wealth in this nation, mostly due to the extremely low taxes on the wealthy that have been out into place since the late 1970s. By the way, there ain't one of you on here who even come close to the "wealthy," so why you keep defending the reduction taxes on the rich at the expense of the middle class I'll never understand. Well, I do understand it. The wealthy have piggy backed THEIR interests into talking points about abortion, gun control, and other social issues, and have broadcast it all on the Fox propaganda network. It's a wonderful example of how easily you can manipulate a populace. Rupert Murdoch is a genius.

But, I'm uninformed, so what do I know?
 
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I think it is funny how everybody loves to hate on fox... not a fan of any of the tv news networks, get my news from trusted internet sites... but I'm sure you will hate those too because they tell it like it is, and don't kiss obama's a$$

My main problem with Fox is that they spout propaganda unabashedly, but call it news. At least do the honest thing and call it what it is. MSNBC is guilty of the same thing.
 
We have a massive imbalance of wealth in this nation, mostly due to the extremely low taxes on the wealthy that have been out into place since the late 1970s. By the way, there ain't one of you on here who even come close to the "wealthy," so why you keep defending the reduction taxes on the rich at the expense of the middle class I'll never understand. Well, I do understand it. The wealthy have piggy backed THEIR interests into talking points about abortion, gun control, and other social issues, and have broadcast it all on the Fox propaganda network. It's a wonderful example of how easily you can manipulate a populace. Rupert Murdoch is a genius.

But, I'm uninformed, so what do I know?

The main problem with your argument is free choice. I can enrich Arthur blank by buying tickets to the falcons. I can enrich Ted turner by eating at his restaurants or watching his networks, I can enrich CEOs by purchasing products of companies they chair. Or I can choose to do none of the above.

Your take is that you use the power of law enforcement to compel others to pay money they otherwise may choose allocate elsewhere
 
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So I'm uninformed because I do not adhere to the conservative philosophy? Get off your high horse, and walk around a bit with the common folk...

And no, I do not think we are on the right path. I think we need a single payer (nationalized) healthcare system. We need to go back to the tax structure of the 1950s that made it less appealing to pay CEOs astronomical salaries just to gut a company. We need to rediscover our sense of duty to our fellow men, and remember that national pride isn't about patriotism, it's about dragging OUR poor out of the gutters.

We have a massive imbalance of wealth in this nation, mostly due to the extremely low taxes on the wealthy that have been out into place since the late 1970s. By the way, there ain't one of you on here who even come close to the "wealthy," so why you keep defending the reduction taxes on the rich at the expense of the middle class I'll never understand. Well, I do understand it. The wealthy have piggy backed THEIR interests into talking points about abortion, gun control, and other social issues, and have broadcast it all on the Fox propaganda network. It's a wonderful example of how easily you can manipulate a populace. Rupert Murdoch is a genius.

But, I'm uninformed, so what do I know?

Wow. Just wow.

The wealthy pay about 70% of the total taxes collected in this country. Maybe you should lay off the Chris Mathews/ Rachel Maddow Kool-Aid. Do some research.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/12/news/economy/rich-taxes/index.html
 
Hopefully, nobody here actually expects to get "news" out of any of the major news networks (FNC, CNN, MSNBC, et al.), right?
 
The main problem with your argument is free choice. I can enrich Arthur blank by buying tickets to the falcons. I can enrich Ted turner by eating at his restaurants or watching his networks, I can enrich CEOs by purchasing products of companies they chair. Or I can choose to do none of the above.

Your take is that you use the power of law enforcement to compel others to pay money they otherwise may choose allocate elsewhere

Sure, but there is a need for wealth to be more equitably distributed. That's why we had large inheritance taxes. That's why in the mid 20th century, taxes on the highest bracket were >90%. (For those over $250,000 a year, which in today's money is over $3.7 million a year.) That effectively made a salary cap, and prevented the large disparity in wealth that we have today. The distribution of wealth was much more equitable. The government has an interest in maintaining a more equitable distribution of wealth, as many popular uprisings have their roots in such inequities.

In any case, again, none of us are even close to being "wealthy," unless you came here with a trust fund. But yet you support the interests of the rich, just like the propaganda has convinced you to do. Bravo.
 
You should read the non-partisan "the millionaire next door". The stats on who the wealthy really are in this country will surprise you. It will also encourage rather than provoke jealousy.

No one ever prospered by taking away from the achievers, but by setting goals for success for themselves.

PS true riches don't come from silver or gold, or anything else we leave behind, and neither does true contentment.
 
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You should read the non-partisan "the millionaire next door". The stats on who the wealthy really are in this country will surprise you. It will also encourage rather than provoke jealousy.

I'm not jealous. Primarily because I married well, my wife and I are in the highest tax bracket, but yet we feel that we actually don't pay enough in taxes.

Besides, I'm mainly talking about the richest 1%, which is those earning over 1.1 million per year. Most of the charts describe that as the start if the "wealth" line. That's not a millionaire next door....
 
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I'm not jealous. Primarily because I married well, my wife and I are in the highest tax bracket, but yet we feel that we actually don't pay enough in taxes.

Feel free to write the IRS a larger check. They'll gladly take it. I'd rather send my money where it will be used wisely.
 
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I'm not jealous. Primarily because I married well, my wife and I are in the highest tax bracket, but yet we feel that we actually don't pay enough in taxes.

Besides, I'm mainly talking about the richest 1%, which is those earning over 1.1 million per year. Most of the charts describe that as the start if the "wealth" line. That's not a millionaire next door....

Actually in the book, the millionaires surveyed were worth 1-5m.

2/3s earned less than six figures,were in their fifties, self-employed or some kind of professional, 1st generation millionaires, lived in middle class areas, in the area they grew up.

It was surprising to me, anyway.
 
Pet peeve: calling a high income earner wealthy.

Wealth is the accumulation of savings not how much you earn in a year. A person could earn $500,00 and spend $495,000 and would not be wealthy. In contrast a person could earn $50,00 for their whole career, save, and retire wealthy.

Not that the left wouldn't love the chance to tax ones wealth/savings. Oh wait we do have a estate tax.
 
Pet peeve: calling a high income earner wealthy.

Wealth is the accumulation of savings not how much you earn in a year. A person could earn $500,00 and spend $495,000 and would not be wealthy. In contrast a person could earn $50,00 for their whole career, save, and retire wealthy.

Not that the left wouldn't love the chance to tax ones wealth/savings. Oh wait we do have a estate tax.

Noted, and understood.

There is an estate tax. One that has been largely gutted and reduced. For the average person, that's a good thing. They would lose their parent's farm, etc., but that's not what I'm talking about.
 
Noted, and understood.

There is an estate tax. One that has been largely gutted and reduced. For the average person, that's a good thing. They would lose their parent's farm, etc., but that's not what I'm talking about.

I wasn't intending to single anyone out, it mostly the talking heads and politicians that like to throw around the "wealthy" word.
 
ASA Aviator...I wish you would go start your own business. Then get back to me. You have no idea of the taxes, fees etc it cost small business which the Gov't considers "wealthy" owners to continue operating. You have your head so far up your arse it's absolutely pathetic. Go start/run your OWN business then get back to me about paying higher taxes. Honestly, you make me sick to my stomach. Seriously, if you have excess money...go start a business. Let us know...mmmmmmmmk?
 
ASA Aviator...I wish you would go start your own business. Then get back to me. You have no idea of the taxes, fees etc it cost small business which the Gov't considers "wealthy" owners to continue operating. You have your head so far up your arse it's absolutely pathetic. Go start/run your OWN business then get back to me about paying higher taxes. Honestly, you make me sick to my stomach. Seriously, if you have excess money...go start a business. Let us know...mmmmmmmmk?

No thanks. I'm happy with how things are. If you're sick to your stomach, you should take some pepto or something.
 
What's to explain? "ladies and gentlemen, we are delayed due air traffic control limitations in XYZ"

Intelligent people can put two and two together.

The idiots will NEVER understand, no matter how much you explain - they'll just continue blaming the Republicans.

For those of you that think FAA, military, SS are the ONLY things that can be cut, and that this is NOT EXACTLY like third world tyrants forcing there will onto the people, while trying to disarm them, you need to lay off the koolaid.
 
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ASA Aviator---
I think I have flown with you....
Sure hope so, because we are in trouble if there is more people that think like you!
 
What's to explain? "ladies and gentlemen, we are delayed due air traffic control limitations in XYZ"

Intelligent people can put two and two together.

The idiots will NEVER understand, no matter how much you explain - they'll just continue blaming the Republicans.

For those of you that think FAA, military, SS are the ONLY things that can be cut, and that this is NOT EXACTLY like third world tyrants forcing there will onto the people, while trying to disarm them, you need to lay off the koolaid.

How big is our debt problem? How much of the federal budget is spent on items other than defense, SS and Medicare?
 
ASA Aviator---
I think I have flown with you....
Sure hope so, because we are in trouble if there is more people that think like you!

Ha. Yeah, well there are a bunch of people who are liberals, there just aren't many in Georgia, so you guys get all isolated and think you're actually in the majority. :)
 
The thing I never understood about liberals is why you hate the country and that way it is.... You guys are continually obsessed with changing the country....
Most of the elders in our society, reflect on the way the country was with pride, and where we are going with sadness... At my young age, I can already see the degradation of the country as well... All of the liberal ideas have been tried in the past in other countries.... and every time it fails.... you know the definition of insanity, don't you?
Is the country really that bad that you need to upset the system? Still the best one going....
I feel with a growing population of people like yourself, that our best days as a country are forever behind us.... God Help us!!!
Forgot, Liberals don't want me to say that either!
 
Ha. Yeah, well there are a bunch of people who are liberals, there just aren't many in Georgia, so you guys get all isolated and think you're actually in the majority. :)
Guess you are probably one of those closet liberals, that is so embarrassed about your beliefs that you hide it from personal interaction, and only talk about it on the internet!
 
Guess you are probably one of those closet liberals, that is so embarrassed about your beliefs that you hide it from personal interaction, and only talk about it on the internet!

Nah, I'm pretty open about my political stance. I just don't bring it up to much at work. You know, religion and politics, etc.
 
The thing I never understood about liberals is why you hate the country and that way it is.... You guys are continually obsessed with changing the country....
Most of the elders in our society, reflect on the way the country was with pride, and where we are going with sadness... At my young age, I can already see the degradation of the country as well... All of the liberal ideas have been tried in the past in other countries.... and every time it fails.... you know the definition of insanity, don't you?
Is the country really that bad that you need to upset the system? Still the best one going....
I feel with a growing population of people like yourself, that our best days as a country are forever behind us.... God Help us!!!
Forgot, Liberals don't want me to say that either!

On the contrary, I want the tax code back like it was in the 50s. I want the distribution of wealth like it was in the 50s and 60s.

The only changes I want to the country that are new involve civil rights issues. Fiscally, I want to go back 60 years.
 

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