NEVER Mention sequestration in PA?!?

[waterskier]

I think it is funny how everybody loves to hate on fox... not a fan of any of the tv news networks, get my news from trusted internet sites... but I'm sure you will hate those too because they tell it like it is, and don't kiss obama's a$$

 

[wms]

But Fox News says its Obamas fault not the republican controlled house which controls the purse strings. Anyways both are at fault but Fox News is just propaganda to fire up the right wing nut jobs. Now go back to watching Hannity.

The president crafted sequester and now has to eat it when he has nothing to offer politically in return for its termination. He'd rather see citizens suffer as a political instrument than shift the cuts to other areas.

The BIG fact is, we ALL took a 2% pay cut in the roll back of the pay roll tax cut as a result the fiscal cliff. If the prez can expect us to live with 2% less, the govt can too.

 

[waterskier]

Um, actually, a very high percentage of the 47% actually vote Republican. Something Fox forgets (intentionally) to tell you. Do some research.

But you can't deny that almost all of the dems agenda benefits those that pay little or no taxes.... the bottom 47%...

 

[wms]

It's not the BOTTOM 47%. It's the 47% at ALL income levels that receive some sort of government entitlement.

Wealthy people have paid into social security and are rightfully entitled to payments later in life.

 

[Twisted Mind]

It is true the Repulicans are all about fiscal responsibliy. That is why the federal spending and defict was reduced during the Regan, Bush 1, and Bush 2.

Both parties love to spend money. The only diffrence is HOW they spend money.

 

[Smarta$$]

It is true the Repulicans are all about fiscal responsibliy. That is why the federal spending and defict was reduced during the Regan, Bush 1, and Bush 2.

Both parties love to spend money. The only diffrence is HOW they spend money.

Careful bro, most people on here are too stupid to catch what you just did there....

 

[Smarta$$]

But you can't deny that almost all of the dems agenda benefits those that pay little or no taxes.... the bottom 47%...

Honestly, I don't agree. It is far more complicated than a bumper sticker slogan would suggest.

 

[Smarta$$]

The president crafted sequester and now has to eat it when he has nothing to offer politically in return for its termination. He'd rather see citizens suffer as a political instrument than shift the cuts to other areas.

The BIG fact is, we ALL took a 2% pay cut in the roll back of the pay roll tax cut as a result the fiscal cliff. If the prez can expect us to live with 2% less, the govt can too.

The president did not craft sequester, and the sequester we have today is actually quite different than the one he SUGGESTED.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

As most of us are union pilots tell me this. If we go on strike to "cause as much pain as possible" to achieve our cause what is wrong with this tactic to accomplish the something else. If you would look at the big picture the whole point of this was to force each side to come to a deal. No one is going to budge until they get enough pressure.

Personal opinion is a three hour delay for someone is a far better choice than bankrupting a senior to pay for health care or cutting the SS checks. Why are the right wing side not excited and praising the country for reducing spending? That after all has been your rally cry for the last five years?

The difference is that pilots don't go in strike to cause pain to the traveling public. They go on strike to attempt to get what they think they are worth. The pain felt by the public is a byproduct.

This is a pure political stunt. The FAA budget covers much more than controller salaries. They could have cut other in other areas or cut salaries across the board and still maintained staffing at previous levels.

Not sure if its true but I heard that controllers are getting 3 furlough days a year. 1 every 4 months. I'm sure they call in sick more than that. It doesn't add up.

 

[Sam Snead]

Please, please, go on an Obama-hating Sequestration rant in your public address about delays. Please.

I'll enjoy reading about it in the aviation news. And you will be doing a big-time carpet dance.

 

[Ops check good]

But, but..... Fox news is "fair and balanced" hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Anyone else notice how the right wing chicks on fox are smoking hot and the left wing girls always look like a foot? I think that is funny.

 

[U of I Tweak]

The difference is that pilots don't go in strike to cause pain to the traveling public. They go on strike to attempt to get what they think they are worth. The pain felt by the public is a byproduct.

This is a pure political stunt. The FAA budget covers much more than controller salaries. They could have cut other in other areas or cut salaries across the board and still maintained staffing at previous levels.

Not sure if its true but I heard that controllers are getting 3 furlough days a year. 1 every 4 months. I'm sure they call in sick more than that. It doesn't add up.

Controllers are forced to take a furlough day once a pay period, or two a month. A friend of mine with Chicago Center says that translates to 30-40 fewer people a day.

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[asayankee]

But my FOM also says not to lie to the passengers... So which do they want the truth or some obscure half-truth?

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Yes they control the spending, but sequestration was originally obama's idea that his cronies in congress put into law. The reason we are here in sequester is because the republicans finally got the balls to say "NO" to more spending (the responsible thing to do) and push for a more fiscally responsible budget. It is the democrats that are unwilling to make cuts so we don't bankrupt our country. They are too concerned with sending money back to their voting block... They spend my tax dollars to buy votes from those who don't pay taxes. I am under no illusions that republicans don't do the same thing, the difference is that when pressure is applied to republicans, they tend to do the conservative thing, the dems are only concerned with pandering to the uninformed voters... unfortunately with the culture and education system in this country today, the uninformed voter (you) are growing faster than the informed.
Can you honestly say that you think this country is on the right path..... how is our current level of spending and government outreach sustainable?

So I'm uninformed because I do not adhere to the conservative philosophy? Get off your high horse, and walk around a bit with the common folk...

And no, I do not think we are on the right path. I think we need a single payer (nationalized) healthcare system. We need to go back to the tax structure of the 1950s that made it less appealing to pay CEOs astronomical salaries just to gut a company. We need to rediscover our sense of duty to our fellow men, and remember that national pride isn't about patriotism, it's about dragging OUR poor out of the gutters.

We have a massive imbalance of wealth in this nation, mostly due to the extremely low taxes on the wealthy that have been out into place since the late 1970s. By the way, there ain't one of you on here who even come close to the "wealthy," so why you keep defending the reduction taxes on the rich at the expense of the middle class I'll never understand. Well, I do understand it. The wealthy have piggy backed THEIR interests into talking points about abortion, gun control, and other social issues, and have broadcast it all on the Fox propaganda network. It's a wonderful example of how easily you can manipulate a populace. Rupert Murdoch is a genius.

But, I'm uninformed, so what do I know?

 

[ASA_Aviator]

I think it is funny how everybody loves to hate on fox... not a fan of any of the tv news networks, get my news from trusted internet sites... but I'm sure you will hate those too because they tell it like it is, and don't kiss obama's a$$

My main problem with Fox is that they spout propaganda unabashedly, but call it news. At least do the honest thing and call it what it is. MSNBC is guilty of the same thing.

 

[enuffalready]

We have a massive imbalance of wealth in this nation, mostly due to the extremely low taxes on the wealthy that have been out into place since the late 1970s. By the way, there ain't one of you on here who even come close to the "wealthy," so why you keep defending the reduction taxes on the rich at the expense of the middle class I'll never understand. Well, I do understand it. The wealthy have piggy backed THEIR interests into talking points about abortion, gun control, and other social issues, and have broadcast it all on the Fox propaganda network. It's a wonderful example of how easily you can manipulate a populace. Rupert Murdoch is a genius.

But, I'm uninformed, so what do I know?

The main problem with your argument is free choice. I can enrich Arthur blank by buying tickets to the falcons. I can enrich Ted turner by eating at his restaurants or watching his networks, I can enrich CEOs by purchasing products of companies they chair. Or I can choose to do none of the above.

Your take is that you use the power of law enforcement to compel others to pay money they otherwise may choose allocate elsewhere

 

[flyboyzii]

So I'm uninformed because I do not adhere to the conservative philosophy? Get off your high horse, and walk around a bit with the common folk...

And no, I do not think we are on the right path. I think we need a single payer (nationalized) healthcare system. We need to go back to the tax structure of the 1950s that made it less appealing to pay CEOs astronomical salaries just to gut a company. We need to rediscover our sense of duty to our fellow men, and remember that national pride isn't about patriotism, it's about dragging OUR poor out of the gutters.

We have a massive imbalance of wealth in this nation, mostly due to the extremely low taxes on the wealthy that have been out into place since the late 1970s. By the way, there ain't one of you on here who even come close to the "wealthy," so why you keep defending the reduction taxes on the rich at the expense of the middle class I'll never understand. Well, I do understand it. The wealthy have piggy backed THEIR interests into talking points about abortion, gun control, and other social issues, and have broadcast it all on the Fox propaganda network. It's a wonderful example of how easily you can manipulate a populace. Rupert Murdoch is a genius.

But, I'm uninformed, so what do I know?

Wow. Just wow.

The wealthy pay about 70% of the total taxes collected in this country. Maybe you should lay off the Chris Mathews/ Rachel Maddow Kool-Aid. Do some research.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/12/news/economy/rich-taxes/index.html

 

[Max Q]

Hopefully, nobody here actually expects to get "news" out of any of the major news networks (FNC, CNN, MSNBC, et al.), right?

 

[ASA_Aviator]

The main problem with your argument is free choice. I can enrich Arthur blank by buying tickets to the falcons. I can enrich Ted turner by eating at his restaurants or watching his networks, I can enrich CEOs by purchasing products of companies they chair. Or I can choose to do none of the above.

Your take is that you use the power of law enforcement to compel others to pay money they otherwise may choose allocate elsewhere

Sure, but there is a need for wealth to be more equitably distributed. That's why we had large inheritance taxes. That's why in the mid 20th century, taxes on the highest bracket were >90%. (For those over $250,000 a year, which in today's money is over $3.7 million a year.) That effectively made a salary cap, and prevented the large disparity in wealth that we have today. The distribution of wealth was much more equitable. The government has an interest in maintaining a more equitable distribution of wealth, as many popular uprisings have their roots in such inequities.

In any case, again, none of us are even close to being "wealthy," unless you came here with a trust fund. But yet you support the interests of the rich, just like the propaganda has convinced you to do. Bravo.

 

[wms]

You should read the non-partisan "the millionaire next door". The stats on who the wealthy really are in this country will surprise you. It will also encourage rather than provoke jealousy.

No one ever prospered by taking away from the achievers, but by setting goals for success for themselves.

PS true riches don't come from silver or gold, or anything else we leave behind, and neither does true contentment.