Gorilla said:Bingo. This is why jet engine turbine sections are made from very exotic and expensive nickel chromium alloys, and not plain steel. Steel loses its strength VERY quickly at elevated temperatures.
An EGT/Turbine temp of 800 C = 1472 f. If we must take steel to your quoted temp of >2600 f. for it to fail, well heck let's make the turbine blades from cheapo steel. Oh wait, the steel WILL fail at MUCH lower temps than that required to melt it, when it is under stress.
The pancaking effect is due to the way the towers were constructed. This has been demonstrated via simulation and verified by expert structural engineers over and over.
Please address my initial question. Why execute an elaborate, extremely difficult, and perilous conspiracy that counts on incredible timing and precision, when two guys in a van could leak 100 lb of VX gas at a football game, and generate the necessary excuse for the U.S. to go "grab the oil?"
By the way, don't put words in my mouth. I never said “I realize you despise the U.S. Gov't.”
Gorilla, I never said that I had all the answers. In fact what I said was that “I don’t have all the answers.” I never suggested at what the motive behind these events was. It was you who brought up the “pretext to war” notion.
To quote you from an earlier post:
Gorilla said:It's Kid C back from the grave!
Gorilla said:Let me turn the table... why do you choose to believe this outlandish fabrication that it was a govt conspiracy when the overwhelming evidence points to a solo al-quaeda operation?
Ponder this - if the idea is a "pretext to go to war, get the oil" - why not release some nerve agent at a mall or sporting event. Clean, simple, and massive casualties, with a low likelihood of being caught.
Next, the gov't investigators "link" the nerve agent to al quaeda, and further determine that it was supplied by Iraq. Score! Instant afghan and Iraq war, just like we have now, without the ridiculous, complex, and risky act of faking multiple hijackings, and loading the towers (undetected) with what would have to be tens of thousands of pounds of explosives.
The conspiracy loons point to the pancake-style of implosion on the towers as "proof." Don't you think they'd have placed the explosives sloppily and in such a way that the towers would tip over rather than implode? More realistic, greater casualties?
Give it a rest. It wasn't a conspiracy of the U.S. gov't or those evil jewish bankers. In case you didn't know, a lot of Jews died that day. They didn't have secret knowledge.
I am merely raising questions about certain aspects of the generally accepted record of events that transpired that day, because based on the available data there are certain aspects in the official reports that don't seem to completely add up.