NetJets XL/XLS

[cocknbull]

What is the difference, and do you get payed more on this fleet because they are different?

 

[FLYLOW22]

What is the difference, and do you get payed more on this fleet because they are different?

Differences pay applies and please visit www.cessna.com for details on all aircraft differences.

 

[cocknbull]

Thank you for the pay info, however I can't find the difference between the two at cessna.com.

 

[Correcting]

-Max ramp and t/o weights are 200 pounds higher.
-ZFW is 100 pounds higher.
-Cockpit avionics are upgraded and somewhat different. MFD uses cursor control device. Magnetic compass is now integrated into Meggitt.
-Brakes are awesome
-The model is identified with a letter "S" added to the end of the letters "XL"

Some other differences as well, but those are the big ones. All the limiting speeds are the same.

Yes, the pilots do get the additional pay for flying 2 models of aircraft.

 

[d91papa]

-Max ramp and t/o weights are 200 pounds higher.
-ZFW is 100 pounds higher.
-Cockpit avionics are upgraded and somewhat different. MFD uses cursor control device. Magnetic compass is now integrated into Meggitt.
-Brakes are awesome
-The model is identified with a letter "S" added to the end of the letters "XL"

Some other differences as well, but those are the big ones. All the limiting speeds are the same.

Yes, the pilots do get the additional pay for flying 2 models of aircraft.

And don't forget the automatic emergency descent feature!

 

[SCT]

NJ pays "differences pay" for an XL/ XLS? That is ridiculous, it's the same type.

 

[d91papa]

NJ pays "differences pay" for an XL/ XLS? That is ridiculous, it's the same type.

Shhhh! That reminds me of the folks who say things like 'flying is so much fun, I'd do it for free!"

 

[WrknStff]

Heck, that's one of the main reasons I picked that fleet over the G200 and sovereign.

 

[Fozzy]

Shhhh! That reminds me of the folks who say things like 'flying is so much fun, I'd do it for free!"

He is the guy with "jetplt" on his tags and the "Will Fly For Food" bumper sticker. Tool.:uzi:

 

[Webslinger]

Xls

Just one more thing to add. Cessna is to add 545 XLS' between 2007 and 2015. I didnt realize this aircraft is becoming so popular? Who would have thought?

 

[HAZ-MAT]

Who would have thought?

Tell that to the family of four coming around the corner with two SUVs!!!!!

 

[cocknbull]

Thank you for the info. I will be joining that fleet soon @ NetJets.

 

[d91papa]

Just one more thing to add. Cessna is to add 545 XLS' between 2007 and 2015. I didnt realize this aircraft is becoming so popular? Who would have thought?

It's like the family truckster of the corporate jet set. I would like to see some faux wood-grain side panels and a rack on top.

 

[SCT]

"Shhhh! That reminds me of the folks who say things like 'flying is so much fun, I'd do it for free!"....Papa.

Papa, I wouldn't do any thing for free but I do have common sense. FS doesn't even have a "differences class" for the XL/ XLS.

 

[flyinlow67]

It's like the family truckster of the corporate jet set. I would like to see some faux wood-grain side panels and a rack on top.

Now that's just a nasty thought! If they could get it field approved, you know someone would try it!

 

[Seat 0A]

NJ pays "differences pay" for an XL/ XLS? That is ridiculous, it's the same type.

The Citation 500 all the way up to the Ultra/Encore are the same type (CE-500) as well but most would agree there are many differences.

There are enough differences between the XL and XLS to cause problems if you are not careful (I have watched many a pilot stumble). Understand that an NJA pilot may fly an XL for 4 months straight, then have an XLS for two days, and back to an XL. Granted, the airplane is not going to fall out of the sky but I believe it is extra workload. It may not be as big of a deal for a corporate flight department where, for example, you might fly both models an equal amount.

Also, FS does in fact have differences training for the NJA pilots. Not sure if they offer it to non-NJA pilots.

 

[gunfyter]

The real tragedy is that the XL pays more than the X....

 

[TurboJetCpt]

"Shhhh! That reminds me of the folks who say things like 'flying is so much fun, I'd do it for free!"....Papa.

Papa, I wouldn't do any thing for free but I do have common sense. FS doesn't even have a "differences class" for the XL/ XLS.

Wow...then that hour of XL/XLS differences I attended at Flight Safety must of been...it must of been a DREAM ! It...never happened. Very freaky.

 

[SCT]

TJCpt, I stand corrected. I just talked to FS TOL and they have a 2 hr differences course for XL/ XLS.

I still think its weird that EJ would pay extra pay for such small differences in the same ac.

Take care-

 

[kman]

211 bucks a month cha ching? Just Kidding, nice getting a raise 1month after getting hired.

 

[NJAmerica]

kman

When did you start getting the extra pay for the XLS ?

 

[Correcting]

NJ pays "differences pay" for an XL/ XLS? That is ridiculous, it's the same type.

It's not about a different type. It's about a different model. From the contract... "Crewmembers who are qualified and possess a duty assignment as Captain in more than one (1) model of aircraft...

Does Cessna market the XLS as a different model than the XL? Yes, they do. That's why they call it an XLS.