NETJETS wants you, even if you can't fly!

[m80drvr]

I'm just starting my 3rd year and dont expect to upgrade for at LEAST another year probably 2


DON'T go to netjets, this job will make you hate aviation. That's not a joke, it's the painful truth. Most pilots here HATE going to work.

Please save the flames telling me to leave and go elsewhere, I have bills and a mortgage to pay( actually I use significant savings each month for the mortgage, I'll soon be out of money in the bank, thanks Nutjets) but I am actively looking. Even If I have to get out of aviation.

 

[I.P. Freley]

One of my now former coworkers just put in his notice to go to NetJets. I talked to him the night of his interview (last week), and he had a very rosy idea of what it was like over there...

Is there anyone reading this that can back up his positive outlook for NJ? All I read here is the negative stuff.

Unfortunately, he seems to think he'll be upgrading in under a year and likely getting a $20,000 retro check/signing bonus/whatever it's called after the new contract is signed...

I hate to open this can o' worms, but any comments on any of the above?

 

[I.P. Freley]

Well, glue-sniffin' or not, he seems to think that you want to get in the door now so you get the retro check later. Any current employee will get the check (whenever the checks are cut) is the insinuation...

 

[Flex]

Hey, IP Freley... PM me and I'll talk to your friend personally on the phone and explain to him the real deal.

 

[FatesPawn]

Well, glue-sniffin' or not, he seems to think that you want to get in the door now so you get the retro check later. Any current employee will get the check (whenever the checks are cut) is the insinuation...

He's obviously not very experienced with unions and perhaps a bit naive. As a 2nd year F/O, I do not expect a retro-check/signing-bonus equal to a 5 year Captain.

If he thinks he'll get something equal to everyone else for simply being on the property he's unfortunately mistaken. Too bad he's throwing away 2 years of his life to discover that.

Fate

 

[I.P. Freley]

Well, I reckon it's too late for him to go back on the decision, he's already tendered his notice here and it's either NetJets or bust.

 

[Live4flyng]

Some people learn the hard way

Well, I reckon it's too late for him to go back on the decision, he's already tendered his notice here and it's either NetJets or bust.

May just be Netjets then bust. Hope he enjoys making $27K for the next 4-5 years flying a Beechjet as a First Officer with no hope of upgrading for a long long time. What was his schedule and pay flying with your company?

 

[Lrjet55]

Why cant people just get it!


You are better off where you are than coming to NutJets.

This place will make you absolutely, positively hate aviation.

We all got into flying for the love of it. Don't ruin it for yourself.

Ask around, you wont find much leeway on the answer.

 

[I.P. Freley]

>>>What was his schedule and pay flying with your company?<<<

Well... Unless NJ has a habit of making 10 day-off months, ridiculous jr. manning and extensions the norm, the schedule will be an improvement.

The pay? Assuming FO pay, it'll be at least a thousand dollar/mo pay cut.

 

[Flex]

Well, I reckon it's too late for him to go back on the decision, he's already tendered his notice here and it's either NetJets or bust.

That's too bad. I wish he had researched it a bit more. It's too bad for us that now we have another undeducated pilot who is able to vote. Each time a new hire is added, I feel like we are losing a potential NO vote and gaining a certain YES vote.

For those of you still considering NJA... Please do not listen to the hype of fast upgrades and retro checks. There is no fast upgrade. You will be on FO pay for several years. Not only that, but you will not hold the 7 and 7. You will be working the 17 day schedule. It takes two years to hold the 7 and 7 right now as an FO on the smaller fleets, and forget about larger planes. I am not BSing anyone, if you have issues with my post, or questions, please PM me and we can talk via land-line.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Another thing I forgot to mention was he said that the "home basing" thing may go away in the new contract, but any current employee will get to keep it cuz of some grandfather clause. That was another reason to get in now and not later.

Apparently he knows a pilot there who has been giving him the "real deal", which is obviously a person with a viewpoint different from Flex, Lrjet55, Live4flying, FatesPawn (and so on and so on and so on and so on....)

 

[Lrjet55]

I.P. Freley,

If you look through the archives here I have given several very honest opinions on NutJets.

I have listed the good and the bad without opinion. To this day I have many friends who will call and ask me about this company and I lay it out for them. I try to give them the most realistic view of life as a NJA pilot free from opinion. After I have completed my little story I give them my opinion based on where they are now and where they want to be.

We all get a little carried away on the BBS here but if you were in our shoes you probably would as well.

However, if you want the truth presented accurately and fairly then call me. I have several friends who are here now, have recently interviewed and are hoping for an interview.

 

[English]

Well, I reckon it's too late for him to go back on the decision, he's already tendered his notice here and it's either NetJets or bust.

I.P.,

I'm not uncommon for pilots to turn in their letter of resignation at a regional, only to go wimpering back into the chief pilot's office with their tail between their legs, asking for their job back. This seems like one of those occasions your friend might want to consider.

 

[I.P. Freley]

I talked to him at length about it yesterday, and he is firmly convinced he's doing the right thing. I didn't try to talk him out of it, I was just presenting my concerns that there are a LOT of people out there that seem to have a very negative attitude about NJ.

Then again, there are a lot of people that have a very negative attitude about his former (my current) employer, so even if it is as bad as they say, it might STILL be an improvement.

Lrjet55, I appreciate the offer, but I think his mind is made up, and really, it's not up to me to convince him otherwise. Besides, he was senior to me, so I just moved up another notch ROFL!!

 

[Lrjet55]

Anytime, best of luck to him.