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Netjets, or Skywest?

RideTheWind

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Currently flying adhoc in a Lear. By the looks of the TA the new pay at NJ will be substantially more than Skywest, but I've heard Skywest has a 4 on 3 off scedule, and the new NJ sounds like a minimum of 7 on. I'd much rather only be gone from home 4 days at a time than 7.

How many hours a day on average to you work at Skywest? I've heard NJ is typically 12 to 14 hours.

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4 on 3 off is probably avg at SKW. Since going to PBS, schedules are less likely to be 4/3. For oct mine was 4 on, 3 off, 4 on, 4 off, 4 on, 6 off, 4 on. I commute, so this is an excellent schedule for me
 

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RideTheWind said:
Currently flying adhoc in a Lear. By the looks of the TA the new pay at NJ will be substantially more than Skywest, but I've heard Skywest has a 4 on 3 off scedule, and the new NJ sounds like a minimum of 7 on. I'd much rather only be gone from home 4 days at a time than 7.

How many hours a day on average to you work at Skywest? I've heard NJ is typically 12 to 14 hours.

Thanks.
The NJA TA has not been fully detailed. There are still a lot of outstanding details to be finalized (Retro pay for existing pilots, NJI integration and others) so I wouldn't get too excited yet - it ain't done until it is done. NJA management has been unpredictable and not too cooperative so I would watch the situation for the time being.

Skywest still has a lot of issues related to pay including the 70-90 seat aircraft paying 50-seat rates. That's ridiculous and it needs to improve considerably. If you want to fly for the airlines in the long-run, perhaps Skywest would be good for a taste of that type of operation.
 

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Retro pay is already set. New hires won't get any of course. NJI will eventually be a part of NJA.. it is only a matter of time. 7 and 7 will be the norm at NJA.
 

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hydrarkt said:
Retro pay is already set. New hires won't get any of course. NJI will eventually be a part of NJA.. it is only a matter of time. 7 and 7 will be the norm at NJA.
Sounds like a big improvement. Let's hope it works out.
 

be-400xpdriver

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first year skywest about 18000
first year netjets minimum 39000

My old flight instructor works for SkyWest and has been there 5 years. He told me last week that SkyWest is slowly beging to feel like working for Mesa.
 

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Second year pay at Skywest is 45,000-
3rd year Captain pay is 70,000
4on3 off is the norm, but starting to see 3on4 off.
Doesn't feel like Mesa yet!
 

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2nd year crj fo at skywest 35hr x 75hr/month x 12months = 31500 how do you come up with 45000? Did you already count your 1.25% pay raise?

5 year capt NetJets 90000 minimum.
5 year capt skywest 63hr x 75hr/month x 12months = 56700
 

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Perdiem added to the pay i think is what would give those numbers.
 

be-400xpdriver

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oh yeah per diem. Skywest 1.60hr NetJets 1.65hr plus NetJets feeds you crew meals. I have only been denied once for a crew meal and that was because we had a 5 hour layover. Nice hotels, Hiltons, Double Trees, etc. unless your stuck in Alpine, TX and the best they have is a Best Western. NetJets has free medical for all family members, saved me 500 dollars a month from old job.
 

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dont get me wrong i am all for netjets i would be interested if i had a bit more time. I was just saying thats where he might have gotten his figure.
 

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Well I can give anecdotal evidence:

1st year (Bro F.O.): 24k
2nd year (Bro/RJ F.O.): 45k
3rd year (Rj F.O./Captain): on track to make to make 70-75k

First third of this year was spent at F.O. pay, so I expect and have heard that next year will be around 85k base pay, but:

SKYW has a profit sharing program (company profit X your W2 per quarter), and a good stock purchase program (15% discount at beginning or end of 6 month period), that if taken advantage of, will greatly add to your general party fund.

We have problems here like any other place, but I can, without a doubt, state that I would rather be here than any other regional airline out there...
 

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be-400xpdriver said:
2nd year crj fo at skywest 35hr x 75hr/month x 12months = 31500 how do you come up with 45000? Did you already count your 1.25% pay raise?

5 year capt NetJets 90000 minimum.
5 year capt skywest 63hr x 75hr/month x 12months = 56700
At net jets donesn't a new captain start at year 1 capt pay?
Do you earn 24 hr per deim when on a trip?

And no- I did not count my 60 cent raise I denied! Plus your just using a 75 hr month- most crews earn around 85 to 100 hrs of pay a month.
 

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No you dont start at year one capt when you upgrade it is based off years of service at the company. The only exception is in the BBJ and G IV and GV then it is years of service in that fleet type.
 

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how long before the new TA becomes a contract?
 

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RJET said:
how long before the new TA becomes a contract?
The compilation of votes takes place on November 21st if all goes as planned. It should be in place shortly thereafter.

HD
 

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be-400xpdriver said:
first year skywest about 18000
first year netjets minimum....
Since newhires aren't able to bid the 7/7 until finished with training, they will be on the "Reserve" schedule.....therefore should be getting 46K base [no perdiem (1.70), no OT]
 

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viper548 said:
For oct mine was 4 on, 3 off, 4 on, 4 off, 4 on, 6 off, 4 on. I commute, so this is an excellent schedule for me
It's excellent to commute 4 times/month...Instead of 2??:confused:

Most of our commuters want the 7/7. You only commute 2x and don't spent 2 of your 3 days off travelling. A 4/3 commute sounds painful:eek:

psysicx said:
So what is the mood like now,are the pilots happy?
I'll let you know Nov 22nd.
 
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viper548

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Personally I'd rather have 7/7, but that's not really an option at the regionals.
 
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