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Starman said:
Any provision in a contract that is contrary to federal law is null and void. Take at least a business law course before getting on here and making an ass out of yourself.

That's ok though Wolfpack, you can upgrade in the Ultra in a year or two.

If I get put in the Ultra, do I get my Gulfstream IV pay? I wouldn't mind that, although I would miss our flight attendants, who are charming, witty, and feed me too well. As my expanding waistline can attest.
 
Starman said:
Any provision in a contract that is contrary to federal law is null and void. That's ok though Wolfpack, you can upgrade in the Ultra in a year or two.

Do you honestly believe the lawyers working for the DOJ, the Teamsters, and the Company are going to sign off on a contract with full knowledge it contains violations of federal law? Perhaps you should join me in business class.

As for the ultra crack; I flew Citations many years ago, and they are a wonderful aircraft. Very stable and forgiving; and an excellent platform to transition into a larger, more complex aircraft like the G-IV or V. But with your attitude, it’s not likely you'll be flying one with a QS tail.
 
Starman said:
Any provision in a contract that is contrary to federal law is null and void. Take at least a business law course before getting on here and making an ass out of yourself.

Sooooo... When are the Comair pilots getting their rightful place on the Delta list. How about Eagle? WO's at USAir? It's amazing those SCOPE clauses have lasted this long.

Maybe they're different... :rolleyes: TC
 
I always laugh when people say "you don't need a union at my company." "Mgmt treats us right." These idiots think that the same mgmt. team will be there for their entire career. What happen when a new team comes in and cuts your pay or job? You get screwed.

NJI pilots are the LOWEST PAID G4 G5 pilots in the country.
 
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I always laugh when people say "you don't need a union at my company." "Mgmt treats us right." These idiots think that the same mgmt. team will be there for their entire career. What happen when a new team comes in and cuts your pay or job? You get screwed.

You've obviously been sleeping through the past 4 years. Tell the people at United how the union has protected their pensions... Ask a former TWA pilot how things have worked out for them, or maybe ask a probationary CHQ pilot (fellow Teamster by the way) that got fired just after 9/11 how their "iron clad" union protection worked out... Any contract isn't worth the paper it's written on, especially once a bankruptcy judge gets their hands on it.

If a group collectively votes in a union, well, good luck to them... However, it would seem that the NJI people are a happy bunch.

And by all accounts, the NJI guys/gals are paid at 50th percentile NBAA. That means right in the middle, not the highest paid yet not the lowest by a large margin either. I could reasonably guess the the NetJets people are probably 25th percentile at best, so please don't bash the NJI pilots about pay.
 
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Once again H25b chimes in on a subject that he has no personal stake in. No dog in this fight but he's gotta put in his two cents. Blah, blah,blah. Do us all a favor you arrogant twit, migrate back on over to the corporate pages or whatever rock you crawled out from under.
 
I think Starman is going to get his free course in business legal battles along with his meal of crow over what supercedes what.
 
Starman said:
Once again H25b chimes in on a subject that he has no personal stake in. No dog in this fight but he's gotta put in his two cents. Blah, blah,blah. Do us all a favor you arrogant twit, migrate back on over to the corporate pages or whatever rock you crawled out from under.


Sorry, I must have misunderstood all of the talk from the likes of you/netjetwife on how all of us 135 pilots were supposed to decline work and all of the talk about the "rising tides" lifting all of our collective boats B.S. So according to you guys, we should ALL have a "dog in this fight" ... :rolleyes:

Like I said before, please leave all of us non-dog owners out of it and take your battle behind closed doors where it belongs.

You're a different arguement a day. First we should ALL support you, and the next day we have no dog in the fight. You're going about this battle about as dumb as it gets. You went out and stirred up this pot and now it looks like h$ll will cool to 32 degrees before you'll ever get released to strike.

So please Starman, please correct me where I'm wrong in my previous post. I was just pointing out that suggesting a union is the answer to all problems is pretty hard to believe in today's environment.
 
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H2b just a question. Did your flight department downsize due to a fractional? In an earlier post on the corporate side you went from a large corporate department with about 11 pilots to a small corp department flying small jets.

Just wondering what happened to the other department?
 
Diesel said:
H2b just a question. Did your flight department downsize due to a fractional? In an earlier post on the corporate side you went from a large corporate department with about 11 pilots to a small corp department flying small jets.

Just wondering what happened to the other department?

My first corporate job was with a Fortune 500 flight department (11 pilots) operating three aircraft and was constantly being circled over by the NetJets marketing vultures. I left there for another EXTREMELY large corporation. From there I have gone on to a very small department operating 2 aircraft. The latest move was not planned, but fell out of the sky and was too good to pass up since I missed being more involved in things outside of just flying.

I don't disagree that in certain situations union representation is a necessary evil, but I have personally seen where in many other situations it holds talented people back from seeing their full potential. Noone can convince me that it's the answer to everything...
 
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