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Crobar said:
get ready to do some bag humpin
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Let me guess, you fly the Ultra or the Beechjet. Sure, the Sovereign has a huge amount of room for baggage - we got it... No fleet is perfect. Regardless, the Sovereign is still one of the most capable airplanes out there and he will get to see a varied destination mix. I'd personally be ecstatic if I got the Sovereign - nice takeoff performance!
 
Hey, the Excel has nearly as much baggage space (80 cubic feet versus 100), and it's very rare that I put more than a couple of bags back there. In most cases, a big baggage area just means I don't have to work as hard to put it all in. It's not at all common to fill the thing up to capacity, really.
 
Crobar said:
get ready to do some bag humpin
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Unless you fly the 400 (or 800) you will pack the same amount. And regardless, the owners will still show up with the same amount. The only difference is if you will fit them into baggage or carry them into the FBO for FEDEX.

And yes the Sov and XL have a ton of space. But trust me the Uboat guys can pack the same amount. All Ultra guys are experts at jig saw puzzles.

They key is getting into a plane with an APU. Trust me.
 
Fozzy said:
Unless you fly the 400 (or 800) you will pack the same amount. And regardless, the owners will still show up with the same amount. The only difference is if you will fit them into baggage or carry them into the FBO for FEDEX.

And yes the Sov and XL have a ton of space. But trust me the Uboat guys can pack the same amount. All Ultra guys are experts at jig saw puzzles.

They key is getting into a plane with an APU. Trust me.[/quote]

That being the case, the Sovereign would be a good choice.
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I'm in the ultra and it seems our pax always show up with more and bigger bags than the pax going to our other fleets. I'd take the bigger baggage compartment anyday over being on your knees trying to get crap in the ultras baggage area.
 
I'm in the 2000, and on more then one occasion I've had pax show up in 2 suburbans full of bags, clubs, surf boards, etc.. having a big baggage compart is nice when there are a couple of bags, but when the pax bring their summer homes' worth of crap, it sucks plain and simple.
 
Wizard said:
Any insight on the 800xp (goods and bads)?
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Are we talking the traditional 800XP (Honeywell version) or the newer 800XP-C (Collins version)? Did Netjets specify which one you would get?

The Collins version is all glass and a sweet set-up with the Pro Line 21 system up front. Both are nice to fly from what I hear.
 
Upgrade in Domicile at Netjets??

Is the Net Jets upgrade sytem similar to the airlines where you upgrade to an equipment type at a particular domicile?

OR,

if you were at TEB (let's say) as a FO and can hold CA...can you stay at TEB or would you have to move somewhere else??

Also, I've heard the company might go back to home basing or at least opening up a few more domiciles? Is this true?

Thanks!
 
Rich and Brian will be at the Wedge New Hire graduation party tommrow night. They have all kinds of tales from the other side.
 
CRJ_Driver said:
Is the Net Jets upgrade sytem similar to the airlines where you upgrade to an equipment type at a particular domicile?

OR,

if you were at TEB (let's say) as a FO and can hold CA...can you stay at TEB or would you have to move somewhere else??

Also, I've heard the company might go back to home basing or at least opening up a few more domiciles? Is this true?

Thanks!
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To make it short and sweet, one does NOT have to move when upgrading, regardless of what the bid posting may say about domicile. For instance, if there is a bid for 3 Excel captains in CMH, someone dumb-a-ciled in TEB could bid for the captain opening without having to switch dumb-a-ciles.

As for opening up basing, the company and union are engaged in interest-based bargaining (IBB). It's quite possible that there will some change to the current dumb-a-cile system but we won't know for sure until we see the IBB package, which is supposed to be in early October.

Until that time, it's all conjecture. The company has supposedly admitted that they see that the dumb-a-ciles are driving away newly-hired pilots. And supposedly the company has stated that some of the current HBA's (Home Base Airports) are "problematic" for them. So will there be a change to the current basing rules? We'll have to wait for early October to know for sure, but I think something will have to happen if the company wants to have any chance for the IBB package get ratified by the pilot group.

But again, that's just my opinion and your mileage may vary.
 
Guitar Guy said:
To make it short and sweet, one does NOT have to move when upgrading, regardless of what the bid posting may say about domicile. For instance, if there is a bid for 3 Excel captains in CMH, someone dumb-a-ciled in TEB could bid for the captain opening without having to switch dumb-a-ciles.

As for opening up basing, the company and union are engaged in interest-based bargaining (IBB). It's quite possible that there will some change to the current dumb-a-cile system but we won't know for sure until we see the IBB package, which is supposed to be in early October.

Until that time, it's all conjecture. The company has supposedly admitted that they see that the dumb-a-ciles are driving away newly-hired pilots. And supposedly the company has stated that some of the current HBA's (Home Base Airports) are "problematic" for them. So will there be a change to the current basing rules? We'll have to wait for early October to know for sure, but I think something will have to happen if the company wants to have any chance for the IBB package get ratified by the pilot group.

But again, that's just my opinion and your mileage may vary.
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I think the company also understands that it would get a lot more qualified pilot applicants with more domiciles. Imagine if NJA offered at least Citationshares' 25+ domiciles - so many more qualified pilots would be applying with that type of flexibility. Pilot attrition rates would likely decrease as well. It would be a win-win for both sides so long as NJA could negotiate ticket rates with the airlines from those domiciles.

That said, NJA wants to maintain its bargaining position and it won't give it up freely (even though it would benefit recruitment and retention efforts as well). I would expect more domiciles to be added - it just makes sense...
 
CA1900 said:
Hey, the Excel has nearly as much baggage space (80 cubic feet versus 100), and it's very rare that I put more than a couple of bags back there. In most cases, a big baggage area just means I don't have to work as hard to put it all in. It's not at all common to fill the thing up to capacity, really.
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Its OK to throw bags in the back of any airplane...only as long as you watched the informative video in recurrent classes and initials on how to properly load bags and do it the right way.....and pay careful attention to the chiropractor and his advice.

Seriously, they cant still be showing that horrible video? "And someday you too will be a captain on a nice new shiny Hawker 400." That line killed me....almost fell outta my seat when she piped up with that comment.
 
Hi!

CitationShares doesn't work for me, because they require pilots to live within 90 miles, or something like that, of the domiciles.

If I had CS bases, with either NetJets or FlexJet's policy of live anywhere you want, just be at your domicile when you're supposed to, that would work.

Home basing would be better.

cliff
YIP
 

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