Netjets commuting questions

[bell47]

I want to apply at NJ's but I would like to know about commuting. Can NJ's pilots jumpseat on other airlines specifically Colgan? When you are "domiciled" at TEB (or any other Domicile) are you responsible to get there or do they get you there from certain airports? Thanks guys.

 

[DO-82 driver]

NJA does not have any jumpseat agreement with anyone. I wouldn't even consider it a possibility.

Once you are assigned a Domicile, you are responsible to get yourself to that Domicile by any means possible so as to report for duty at the assigned time, by the Company, on your first day.

As the contract is currently written, the Company must assign you a start time for your first day no later than 7pm local the day prior.

That's the way it is, the Readers Digest version, at this CURRENT moment. Things may change in the very near future however.

I will not speculate any further becasue I have no factual information to provide.

 

[bell47]

That's exactly what I needed, Thank you.

 

[tathepilot]

October is the vote for home basing, right..?

 

[DO-82 driver]

October will be the time for a vote on a whole host of topics all lumped into 1 vote.


Nothing is certain and alot of people are basing their vote on the complete package......not just the HBA language.

This vote is, by no mean, a sure thing.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Oct 1 is when we are supposed to see the package. I don't think a vote by date X has been set yet. Nor has an implementation date.

Beat the rush and put in an app. If you like what NJA has to offer at the time you receive an offer, take the job. If you don't like the way things are, tell them thanks but no thanks.

 

[skiandsurf]

I dont think this Oct vote will pass if there is no monetary gain for the pilots. If the company needs more pilot domiciles they can change the policy without a vote.

My "yes" vote is for sale only.

 

[fischman]

I dont think this Oct vote will pass if there is no monetary gain for the pilots. If the company needs more pilot domiciles they can change the policy without a vote.

My "yes" vote is for sale only.

Care to make that interesting?

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I talked to a NJ guy who knew what was going on as far as "home basing". He asked me where I lived, and how many airlines flew in there. I told him 5 + Allegiant. He said I would have no problem commuting from my home airport. He said Fargo was another example of what type of airport you could commute to.

He said the deal would be done and public in Oct or maybe Sep, and then go to a vote. He told me to get my stuff in now.

Good Luck!

cliff
ILN

 

[Cavpilot]

Hi!

I talked to a NJ guy who knew what was going on as far as "home basing". He asked me where I lived, and how many airlines flew in there. I told him 5 + Allegiant. He said I would have no problem commuting from my home airport. He said Fargo was another example of what type of airport you could commute to.

He said the deal would be done and public in Oct or maybe Sep, and then go to a vote. He told me to get my stuff in now.

Good Luck!

cliff
ILN

Get your stuff in now...ignore the rest.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Hi!

I talked to a NJ guy who knew what was going on as far as "home basing".
Good Luck!

cliff
ILN

Hahha. That's funny. I just saw most of the MEC and IBB Ngotiators days ago.

None of them knew EXACTLY which cities would show up on the 100 city list... much less Fargo.

Here's a way to think of it...

100 cities means that only 2 cities would be offered per state.

 

[Bad Monkey!]

Caveat Emptor.

If you are taking what a line pilot told you as gospel then you will be a very bitter pilot here.

Do us a favor, don't come here. We're tired of new hires regreting their uniformed decisions. We don't want to hear you bitch with the others for the next 3 years.

Call the union and get the facts.

With what is coming down from our MEC about regional basing/bids and the general feeling from the pilot group this IBB thing will be DOA.

It started out as just cleaning up the language and has progressed to a complete re-negotiation of the CBA.

The company can open domiciles anytime and they are choosing not to. Instead they want major give backs that we have fought long and hard for.

If you can live at low pay in 5 high cost of living areas and don't mind being an FO for 3-5 years then come on over. If not then see ya in 2010.

 

[IDEtoNJA]

Cliff and all,

As stated above, nothing is definite at this time! Do not believe any of the hype because no one knows what the final document will look like! No one knows what the final document will include at this time either -- I.e. basing, pay, scheduling, hours of operation, etc! Please, do not make any career decisions based on hype and speculation.

These are the only things I know for certain:

-. The negotiating committee is currently in an ongoing form of bargaining with the company.

-. The deadline for this round of bargaining was set as Oct 1st.

-. IF the negotiating committee reaches an agreement by Oct 1st. The leadership will decide whether or not the document has merrit to be presented to the pilot group for a vote.

-. No further timelines have been made public at this time. Therefore, no voting deadline and potential implementation date, in case the document is ratified, have been made public at this time.

Thank You

Hi!

I talked to a NJ guy who knew what was going on as far as "home basing". He asked me where I lived, and how many airlines flew in there. I told him 5 + Allegiant. He said I would have no problem commuting from my home airport. He said Fargo was another example of what type of airport you could commute to.

He said the deal would be done and public in Oct or maybe Sep, and then go to a vote. He told me to get my stuff in now.

Good Luck!

cliff
ILN

 

[RTRHD]

Hahha. That's funny. I just saw most of the MEC and IBB Ngotiators days ago.

None of them knew EXACTLY which cities would show up on the 100 city list... much less Fargo.

Here's a way to think of it...

100 cities means that only 2 cities would be offered per state.

Not Alaska or Hawaii. So that opens up four more.

 

[RTRHD]

And by the way I hope it happens. That would help out a bit.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Currently, getting your application takes at least a week, and it can take much longer.

Once you get your app, it is taking at least 3 months to get an interview.

If you get hired, you can wait several months, if you so desire, to start a class date with NetJets.

So, from the start of the process to getting into Indoc is taking about 5 months MINIMUM and can take up to 6-8 months.

If you start the process now, you should know what the new basing policy (IF a new one is voted in) well before even your interview date.

Good Luck to You!

cliff
ILN

 

[FLYLOW22]

Not Alaska or Hawaii. So that opens up four more.

Anything is possible Brother.

2008 should be fun.

 

[Stump]

Stupid Question

Say you are based at TEB and elect to drive (about 4 hours from my current home in northern VA). Where do you park? Is the comapny repsonsible to get you all the way back to TEB or to one of the NYC-area airports (JFK, LGA, or EWR)?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Diesel]

You park at the fbo in teb. Worst aviation.

If you airline back or to it is the companies responsibility to get you to and from teb with duty time. ie. Sedan

 

[Guitar Guy]

To add to Diesel's post, the company has the option of also starting you at the one so-called satellite airport that's been designated for the TEB domicile, which is HPN.

If the company assigns you to start your tour at HPN, you have to report there and the company is responsible for parking fees, if any. Also, the company is responsible for returning you to HPN at the end of the tour within your duty time limit.

 

[Stump]

Thanks to both.

Is Netjets interviewing folks who want TEB and/or PBI or does it vary throughout the year?

Thanks again.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I believe the interview wait does depend on what base you want. For sure the class start date depends and the base and aircraft.

cliff
ILN

 

[Guitar Guy]

Thanks to both.

Is Netjets interviewing folks who want TEB and/or PBI or does it vary throughout the year?

Thanks again.

It seems to ebb and flow. I gave a letter of rec to a guy who wanted LAX (which is not a popular dumb-a-cile choice) and it took about 2 months from the submission of my letter of rec to his job offer. However, PBI and DAL have been popular choices and supposedly people are waiting much longer for those cities.

But keep an eye out. There may be a big change in the basing options at NJA after the IBB process concludes and we see the document in October.

 

[Fest]

To add to Diesel's post, the company has the option of also starting you at the one so-called satellite airport that's been designated for the TEB domicile, which is HPN.

If the company assigns you to start your tour at HPN, you have to report there and the company is responsible for parking fees, if any. Also, the company is responsible for returning you to HPN at the end of the tour within your duty time limit.

That is only true if you live with in 90 miles of the domacile and satellite. If you are outside of that 90 mile (Mapquest distance) then they can only start you at your domicile. If you live in NOVA then you can only start and finish in TEB (unless you elect to airline elsewhere on your last day - but that's another topic).

 

[Guitar Guy]

That is only true if you live with in 90 miles of the domacile and satellite. If you are outside of that 90 mile (Mapquest distance) then they can only start you at your domicile. If you live in NOVA then you can only start and finish in TEB (unless you elect to airline elsewhere on your last day - but that's another topic).

You are correct - thanks for adding that caveat.

I live in one of the "magic 5" and I've yet to start at the satellite even though I live just minutes from it.

 

[Beernutz]

So, um, let's say I have a friend . . .

Based out of LA, at the end of his tour, how easy would it be to get his ticket changed to Seatac?

I understand you pay the difference in cost to the airline? Or you end up in LA and spend your own dime to get back I understand.

 

[imacdog]

You have to book your own ticket to wherever you want to go. The company will turn your ticket to LAX into a "dummy" ticket and show how much it is worth so you know how much you can get reimbursed. Actually, you will know the cost of the ticket when they send you the flight information so you can plan your flight home accordingly. Remember that plans can change on the last day so booking your ticket early can be a risk.

 

[Guitar Guy]

And don't tell them about wanting a dummy ticket until after they book the ticket back to your domicile. That's one of the more important hints from the guys booking their own tickets home. That way, you'll likely have a bigger budget to book your own ticket.

Hopefully some of the folks using this scheme will chime in with more details for you.

 

[Guitar Guy]

So, um, let's say I have a friend . . .

Based out of LA, at the end of his tour, how easy would it be to get his ticket changed to Seatac?

Be sure to tell your, um, "friend" to keep an eye out for possible changes in basing resulting from the IBB process. The deadline for the document is October 1 and we should start knowing some of the details fairly soon.

 

[Beernutz]

And don't tell them about wanting a dummy ticket until after they book the ticket back to your domicile. That's one of the more important hints from the guys booking their own tickets home. That way, you'll likely have a bigger budget to book your own ticket.

Hopefully some of the folks using this scheme will chime in with more details for you.

I'm not sure I follow, at the end of tour, am I asking NJA's travel dept to change my tix? Or am I calling the airline directly and using my existing fare as a discount? As a mil guy, we'd do the latter if we wanted to make changes, then pay the difference. This allowed changes to be made with the gov't discounted fare.

But amybe having NJA's travel peeps make the changes would be less expensive?

Thanks
Go HBA.