Netjets Cessna 310

[El Chupacabra]

The Pilots that fly N310QS will NOT carry pax (other pilots, mechanics, and yes even the big bad BB himself) if they can not meet the departure gradients

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Is that one engine or two? Where do they find the second segment climb gradients for the 310?

There is NO REQUIREMENT in part 91 to make IFR climb gradients on one engine.

 

[Udonche]

"Is that one engine or two? Where do they find the second segment climb gradients for the 310?

There is NO REQUIREMENT in part 91 to make IFR climb gradients on one engine."
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OK. I'm going to try and be nice about this. Regarding the one or two enging question first: Cessna does indeed publish single engine rate of climb for the 310R. The pilots that fly N310QS will NOT take off with passengers if they do not EXCEED the required IFR climb rate on ONE ENGINE!

Again, we have a true educator on our hands with this next one. You are indeed correct that there is NO REQUIRMENT in part 91 to make IFR climb gradients on one engine. Not even on two engines for that matter oh regulation Budda. What I am trying to say is that regardless of "regulations" the people that fly this airplane fly it safe and with in all IFR worst case scenario boundries. If they can not make gradients they do not go. I know this for a fact! Yes, they want to build time but they are not stupid. They know more about aircraft performance, TERPS and the capabilities of their little airplane than anything FSI can teach you. Give the guys a break. They are safe and take pride in staying safe. Besides, I don't even know why you continue to bad mouth these guys. Per our good buddy GH noone has to see the inside of the 310 again anyway.

 

[Diesel]

4 pilots and 3/4 tanks i'm sure that climb rate is stellar.

It's a moot issue we don't have to ride in that thing anymore. Thank god.

 

[transpac]

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OK. I'm going to try and be nice about this. Regarding the one or two enging question first: Cessna does indeed publish single engine rate of climb for the 310R. The pilots that fly N310QS will NOT take off with passengers if they do not EXCEED the required IFR climb rate on ONE ENGINE!
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If this is so, you sure don't fly much IFR with passengers. Have you ever actually calculated your engine out climb gradient?

 

[shamrock]

I remember 310QS flying out of BDL back around 1996-1997. If I remember correctly they used it to fly some honcho down to TEB, before they got the King Air.

The line guys used to break it regularly by turning the nose gear beyond its limits when towing it.

 

[ultrarunner]

The day the original post was talking about, a couple of the flight school instructors took a couple of mechanics from CMH to LAN because a Falcon crew was having an Airshow problem and said that is wasn't their job to pull and collar the C/B to deactivate the system.

real team players there. classy.

 

[paulsalem]

It's a moot issue we don't have to ride in that thing anymore. Thank god.

Whine, whine whine.

If you didn't like it, you could alway quit.

 

[Grizz]

Actually Paul,

We did a better thing. We had our union get the practice stopped. I know you take it as a personal affront that the pilots didn't like flying on it. I'm sorry you feel that way but all of us have already paid our dues and being forced onto non-commercial transportation as part of our job doesn't really excite us.

 

[paulsalem]

Actually, I could care less that you guys don't fly on it. I don't work for NJ or the flight school.

I'm just saying pilots bitch too much.

And I didn't know that flying on a piston twin was "paying your dues".

 

[Fozzy]

Paul,

"I'm just saying pilots bitch too much. "

Then log out.

"And I didn't know that flying on a piston twin was "paying your dues"."

It is. But I guess you just want to fly for food and tell all the ladies at the bar that you are a pilot.

 

[paulsalem]

Heh,

We're not discussing pay here.

 

[Groundpounder]

I'm just saying pilots bitch too much.

Pilots bitch? noooooooooo?!?!?!

(10+ years as a line guy)

 

[Groundpounder]

You probably have never done about 8 IFR legs a day calling tanks inbound. Or 4L insight with the traffic to 4R in sight maintain the visual.

You must be former Cape Air