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FamilyGuy said:
$120 Million is NOT a relatively few dollars. And it boggles my mind that you are willing to destroy the company and the thousands of jobs it provides to pilots and others because you want to double your salary.

How many aviation companies are giving raises right now? You're pay is going to increase, the only question is by how much....meanwhile the vast majority of pilots are either furloughed or getting their pay cut by large amounts.

The company offered a pay increase of ZERO. They offered to let me work more days if I want more money. That is not a raise. I would be happy to work more days as long as we reduce the number of duty hours every day and ferry me home every night.

You think 120 million is a lot of money? Thats how much the pilots have been UNDERpaid every year.

Shouldn't the company make its profits by properly charging for its services instead of by underpaying its pilots?
 
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FamilyGuy said:
LOL....I'm going to have to call payroll....I knew I was being underpaid, but this is ridiculous. Maybe I can have the union renegotiate for me....Will I be able to throw terms like SCAB around loosely?

We'll be happy represent you. But, please search my posts before you accuse me of using the s word. I think I've been careful.
 
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Total BRK flight operations revenues per SEC filings- $3.42 billion.

Pilot cost today's contract- $125 million, doubling pay= $250 million.

For those of you that failed math in the third grade= $3.42 billion is

3,420 million dollars! thats $3,420,000,000.00!

Hey morons, $250 million is a cost of doing business and is chump change compared to the total revenue income.

They DON'T WANT TO PAY? STMFD and go fly it yourself!
 
El Chupacabra said:
The company offered a pay increase of ZERO. They offered to let me work more days if I want more money. That is not a raise. I would be happy to work more days as long as we reduce the number of duty hours every day and ferry me home every night.

If that's the case, what causes the cost difference in the graph that mgmt published? Is it not due to the increase in wages?

El Chupacabra said:
You think 120 million is a lot of money? Thats how much the pilots have been UNDERpaid every year.

Underpaid against what standard? According to the graph, that $120 million is roughly 3 times the NJ US profit. Should the company lose money to pay you that amount?

El Chupacabra said:
Shouldn't the company makes its profits by properly charging for its services instead of by underpaying its pilots?

This appears to be a problem plaguing all aviation in the last 4 years...NJ is already the highest cost provider, how much of a premium can we charge before owners go to another provider?
 
Zero or what?

El Chupacabra said:
The company offered a pay increase of ZERO. They offered to let me work more days if I want more money. That is not a raise. I would be happy to work more days as long as we reduce the number of duty hours every day and ferry me home every night.QUOTE]
El Chupacabra said:


Isn't it interesting that Chuy here says it was a raise of ZERO, and someone else said it was regressive, and still others said it was meager? It sounds you guys aren't getting a consistent message from you SU boys. But then I don't suppose they would want you to be too well informed as they want to keep you hopped up so you will vote for a strike.



Well go and get-em Chuy. But don't come crying here on the board when the mediator slaps you will a year deep freeze because your SU can't figure out how to bargain in good faith.
 
Bad Monkey! said:
Total BRK flight operations revenues per SEC filings- $3.42 billion.

Pilot cost today's contract- $125 million, doubling pay= $250 million.

For those of you that failed math in the third grade= $3.42 billion is

3,420 million dollars! thats $3,420,000,000.00!

Hey morons, $250 million is a cost of doing business and is chump change compared to the total revenue income.

They DON'T WANT TO PAY? STMFD and go fly it yourself!

For those that failed accounting......REVENUES do not equal PROFIT.

$120 Million in increased pay is roughly 3 times the NJ US Profit.

If you're so bright and control the scarce resource (labor) why dont you start your own airline or fractional?

Simple, you dont have the CAPITAL to get it done....that's the scarce resource.
 
FamilyGuy said:
If that's the case, what causes the cost difference in the graph that mgmt published? Is it not due to the increase in wages??

Its not a graph of what they offered.


FamilyGuy said:
Underpaid against what standard? According to the graph, that $120 million is roughly 3 times the NJ US profit. Should the company lose money to pay you that amount??
They lose money in Europe to pay it.

FamilyGuy said:
This appears to be a problem plaguing all aviation in the last 4 years...NJ is already the highest cost provider, how much of a premium can we charge before owners go to another provider?
Yes that's very interesting. Netjets is the highest cost and pays the least. In the last six years I have been paid over 100K less than I would have at CS flying airplanes half the weight and 1/3 the cost there compared to here.

Can anyone spell mismanagement?
 
x402 said:
We'll be happy represent you. But, please search my posts before you accuse me of using the s word. I think I've been careful.

you're correct x402, you havent used the S word. Sorry if I mixed you up with some of the others.
 
Bad Monkey! said:
Total BRK flight operations revenues per SEC filings- $3.42 billion.

Pilot cost today's contract- $125 million, doubling pay= $250 million.

For those of you that failed math in the third grade= $3.42 billion is

3,420 million dollars! thats $3,420,000,000.00!

Hey morons, $250 million is a cost of doing business and is chump change compared to the total revenue income.

They DON'T WANT TO PAY? STMFD and go fly it yourself!

Very good. that means 120 Million is just 3.5% of the total revenues for flight operations.

Family guy! said:
...NJ is already the highest cost provider, how much of a premium can we charge before owners go to another provider?!

There is your answer ... 3.5% MORE
 
x402 said:
We'll be happy represent you. But, please search my posts before you accuse me of using the s word. I think I've been careful.

Thanks for the offer of representation, but I've had my fill of union shops. Too much strife and arguements for me. I'd rather just come in and do my shift and go home to my family.
 

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