Net Jets to Furlough 500...??? Right...

[B19 Flyer]

I keep reading the CBA and i still can't find the section that gives NJASAP the final say on how many pilots must be employed......

Amazing, you can't read the work rules/days off/scheduling sections of the contract?

Please don't tell me that you don't understand how staffing models are developed for any company.

Please don't tell me that you are actually looking for a number inside the CBA that tells how many pilots per airplane need to be hired...

Wow... how rookie does that get?

 

[imacdog]

the fact that the union at NJ has cost the company millions of dollars and forced an overstaffing of the company which in turn is putting pilots out of work, voluntary or not.

This one sentence really is proof that B19 is a paid union buster. If he really was in management and believed this, then he is severely overestimating his own intelligence level. Since he's probably not as stupid in real life as he seems on this message board, the only logical explanation behind statements like this is that he is paid to write them, whether he believes them or not.

 

[gunfyter]

From the idiocy of his statements ... one would have to conclude B19 is really Joe Biden. Could there really be TWO people in the universe that dumb?

Mr 19... did NJ overstaff because of the union? Or did they overstaff because they anticipated SELLING 50 to 100 airplanes in 2009?

... and the hiring continued in order to staff those planes which according to Cessna they expect those orders to be canceled!

 

[brokeflyer]

dont bother with b19. He just don't get it.

I've won that battle many times and now I need a new challenge.

 

[fischman]

Amazing, you can't read the work rules/days off/scheduling sections of the contract?

Please don't tell me that you don't understand how staffing models are developed for any company.

Please don't tell me that you are actually looking for a number inside the CBA that tells how many pilots per airplane need to be hired...

Wow... how rookie does that get?

I recommend you watch the collective works of David Spade.

 

[DUATS]

From the idiocy of his statements ... one would have to conclude B19 is really Joe Biden. Could there really be TWO people in the universe that dumb?

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Can you say "Dan Quayle"?

 

[gunfyter]

From the idiocy of his statements ... one would have to conclude B19 is really Joe Biden. Could there really be TWO people in the universe that dumb?

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Can you say "Dan Quayle"?

Sorry... Dan Quayle is no Jack Kennedy but he is also no Joe Biden ....

 

[B19 Flyer]

This one sentence really is proof that B19 is a paid union buster. If he really was in management and believed this, then he is severely overestimating his own intelligence level. Since he's probably not as stupid in real life as he seems on this message board, the only logical explanation behind statements like this is that he is paid to write them, whether he believes them or not.

Netjets is overstaffed not only to projected hiring, but staffing levels higher than industry average. NJ is paying for this mess, not the union.

All of you said this could never happen, but it did, didn't it?

 

[imacdog]

Still nary a mention of the world economy I see, sigh. Dear B19, would you mind explaining why the other jet fractional companies with no union and no CBA have furloughed? Surely with no restrictive CBA in place, those companies should have been able to staff their companies perfectly. After all, it can't have anything to do with the severe downturn in private aviation as a whole.

 

[B19 Flyer]

They don't have a CBA to fight with.

Still nary a mention of the world economy I see, sigh. Dear B19, would you mind explaining why the other jet fractional companies with no union and no CBA have furloughed? Surely with no restrictive CBA in place, those companies should have been able to staff their companies perfectly. After all, it can't have anything to do with the severe downturn in private aviation as a whole.

All of you blamed the industry downturn of the legacy carriers and bankruptcies on poor management 7 years ago, not the economy. Now you blame it on the economy? 7 years ago the industry leading contracts and poor economy had more to do than bad management.

History is about to repeat itself. An industry leading contract coupled with a downturn in the economy is creating havoc at NJ, and NJ is paying for it. It will unfortunatly get worse before it gets better, and I predict that the industry leading contract will be cut back to reality just like the legacy carriers were. All the other fracs have to do is stand pat... they've already circled the wagons. They don't have a CBA to fight with.

 

[brokeflyer]

relax sunshine.....it wont effect you at all.

 

[Hogprint]

B*skanza posted:

An industry leading contract coupled with a downturn in the economy is creating havoc at NJ, and NJ is paying for it.

Havoc? What havoc? Can you show an example of this? Everything I've seen out of the company and the union has been to HELP OUR PEOPLE. Nothing more, nothing less. If you have any "insider" info, do tell.

BTW you haven't answered my NJASAP recruiting question...

It's easy to predict self fulfilling prophecies. Quite another thing to back up blatant lies.

 

[brokeflyer]

i wouldnt read too much into anything he posts about netjets, he don't really know anything more than the average line guy.

 

[imacdog]

relax sunshine.....it wont effect you at all.

Union-busting does seem like one of the more recession-proof businesses.

 

[imacdog]

All the other fracs have to do is stand pat... they've already circled the wagons. They don't have a CBA to fight with.

They've done more than just stand pat; they've laid off workers. Why is that when they never had a CBA to "force the company into overstaffing"?