Negotiations in public

[SoCentralRain]

This is the way United would love to see the JCBA go. Grab some popcorn.

www.unitednegotiations.com click on "read more" or

http://www.unitednegotiations.com/e...hensive_Company_Proposal_Summary_10-27-10.pdf

::shaking head::

 

[Ex737Driver]

Desperate times call for desperate measures. We can't get the union to budge on their proposal so lets try to do this with each pilot we can get to read this. Pathetic. 2.5+ years past the amendable date on a concessionary contract and they actually think that there are pilots that would actually consider this acceptable?

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[RT8VA]

That Scope is a zero and the rest of it is woefully inadequate, remind the other pilot groups while they look at that compared to theirs and get pissed that if we give up that scope a large chunk of the other employee groups will lose their job.

 

[redflyer65]

Are they actually quoting Delta to try to match their scope relief? Wow.

That would pretty much be a non-starter with the first bullit point.

 

[miles otoole]

No kidding. However it's pretty ironic with deltas scope, they have hired 1500 since 97 and UAL still has 1500 on furlough.

 

[Jetjockey]

Has anyone informed them Delta's contract is a concessionary agreement and pretty much sucks? Scope alone is a major NO vote.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

How about we pass a deal section by section with improvements to the Delta standard or better and then close the deal with SCOPE.

Delta pilots passed the contract without the NWA pilots. Then after the NWA pilots saw the light they came along. Meanwhile the DAL pilots set the tone.

Why is CAL setting the tone? CAL ALPA does not know good from bad and their pilots are all company men.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

UAL needs to use it greater numbers and set the tone. Then CAL can decide what they want to do.

 

[Dan Roman]

Are they actually quoting Delta to try to match their scope relief? Wow.

That would pretty much be a non-starter with the first bullit point.

I'm curious, AND THIS ISN'T FLAME, but you are a SWA guy and I see a lot of you throwing stones about DAL's scope (or lack of), yet SWAPA was going to allow SWA to expand into Mexico and Canada with 737's flown by non SWA pilots. No ALPA carrier would ever do that. What's your take on that.
Personally I think it shows that every airline has it's issues, but what's with the stone throwing?

 

[Flopgut]

UAL needs to use it greater numbers and set the tone. Then CAL can decide what they want to do.

Frank Lorenzo would love you.....