Need some object advice

[Sparse]

There IS the ability to work OT at Flops, pretty much as much as you want...but you will be severely ostracized by your fellow crewmembers who will want nothing to do with you for it. It will not be something you can hide from them. Acceptance of OT only undermines the union's efforts to make Flops a career choice instead of the Mesa airlines of the fractionals.
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This is playing with fire. There were 49 pilots sued by Delta over a similar situation. A settlment was reached, out of court, as part of a contract negoatiation, which cost all of the Delta guys something. These guys were headed to court and it would have been ugly. Be carefule on intimidating someone into not working OT.

 

[xdrvr]

I have some buds who do the 24/7 on call, corp gigs, no life whatsoever. I would definitely opt for the hard days off, sched. The QOL will make up for the pay. Kalitta?? I got some Connie stories

 

[slowjet]

I am a 7 year veteran of FLOPS. My advice is too stay away until we have a contract. FLOPS lacks leadership and integrity. They manage (lack of a better term) by fear, intimidation, and stupidity. Our CEO is the biggest pilot hater I've ever worked for. Working overtime at FLOPS is the 8th deadly sin. This is the reason we are understaffed and prolonging our fair contract.
Soon we will have a contract and with that hopefully our beloved CEO wll be out on his a**.
Oh yeah, they fired 2 new hires within the first week because management did not like their questions. And one quit. That says it all!!!

 

[Galaxy]

Wow, both of those cards sound like they will suck. I say if you have a job stick with it till something better comes along. The atmoshphere at FLOPS is nothing short of miserable. It might improve after a contract but that could take years with the curent mgt.
Obviously NJA then the others like Flex or CS. If you want biz jets I would try Seagrave Aviation or Travel Mgt.-don't have to move and not so much turbulance.

Friends don't let friends do FLOPS.

 

[dime line]

Hi,

Just curious what some of you have to say....

I have to chose between two jobs in the next week to 2 weeks.

One is a 135 job that I would have to relocate for, not too far but nonetheless. The starting pay is a bit higher but will not be typed in the aircraft initially ( they mentioned in-house training), ( the a/c in question isn't used by many opeartors other than charter and cargo). Looks to be a year or so for that when the upgrade comes. The schedule is on-call 24/7 with a small amount of "hard days" off as well.

The other is with a frax operator, decent sked but lower pay. I also will be relocating anyhow. I do get an initial type as well which would be an added bonus.

There is the ability to work OT which may make up for some of the lower pay.

I have a good friend at the frax and he has given me a good insight to how things are and I am trying to make an informed decision. There are pros/cons for every job and I guess I am just looking for some objective advice to make the decison a little easier. I know which way I am leaning but would like a little more input.

Thanks in advance for your time and opinion.

CV

Don't you dare come here, knowing the situation and work OT to make up for the pay. Your nuts for even thinking about this

 

[dime line]

This is playing with fire. There were 49 pilots sued by Delta over a similar situation. A settlment was reached, out of court, as part of a contract negoatiation, which cost all of the Delta guys something. These guys were headed to court and it would have been ugly. Be carefule on intimidating someone into not working OT.

Ok Fine, but he will have a miserable 8days on the road, even worse than what management does. There are guys here trying to pay medical bills, and stuff like that, for them OT is fine. But to come here just to do OT, no way. Game on for that guy

Just the mere fact that he is on this site, tells me that he is doing his homework about his two choices.

 

[skyismyoffice]

You said you have a "good friend" working at the Frax. If it's FLOPs and this friend is telling you it's a good place to work and working OT is OK, then he/she is in the minority. I have told all my good friends to stay away from this place. Heck, I'm trying to bail out.

You have to ultimately make the call, but I would say stay away.