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I have a friend who eventually wants to get a job at a regional. His times are competitive (3000 TT, 1500 ME, 350 PIC Turbine). The only thing he is concerned about is the fact that he received a letter of warning from the FAA about 4 years ago, right after getting his commercial certificate. The infraction was for towing a banner below 1000 ft.

All he received was this letter of warning, and no violation. The letter of warning was to be expunged 2 years after being written. Like mentioned above, this occured 4 years ago, so it has been gone for 2 years, and there is no record of it.

The question is: Is he going to have a problem getting a job because of this? Any advice would help.
 
Not only should your "friend" have no trouble, but he shouldn't report the matter. There is no record at this stage, and it's a done deal. He received a letter of warning, which is an administrative action. It is not a suspension or revocation, or other form of violation. The period of time in which this will be available on his record is over, and it should remain a closed issue.
 
it could be touchy in the interview, but it should by no means prevent him from getting the job, if everything else shows him to be a good fit.
by touchy, i mean, it's not on his record. so when the interviewer asks if he's got anything on his record, his answer should be no. however, if he leaves it at that, and the ten year background check stumbles across the incident, even though he's not been violated, and i'm not quite sure that even WOULD show up on the background check.. problem could arise as to why he didn't explain this during the interview.

if it was me in that position, in an interview, if the question about my record came up, i think i would expose it, explain the situation, and how it wasn't a violation, just a warning, and it's been cleared, etc. but, if the question never even comes up, i wouldn't offer up the info without being prompted.
on the application, it should ask about violations, suspensions, etc.. NO should suffice. but in the face to face, if the question comes up, i'd explain it away. if the question never comes up, no one needs to know.
 
It's not going to show up on a background check. The only thing that will arrive will be the same record that any individual can request, and should always request before making application for a pilot position. Check it out yourself.

However, if the conscience is such that one must disclose it, carry the letter of investigation and letter of warning, as well as other supporting evidence, to the interview. Let the interviewer see it.

After four years, it won't be there. The matter is expunged after two. It's important to note also, that it's not two years after the incident, but after the final disposition of the incident. It's not uncommon to take a year or so to get through the matter, so in truth, it's on your record for three (or more).

Order your records and see for yourself.
 
how do you order your records?
 
FAA file

Go to this FAA webpage link for information on ordering your records.

Everyone should order his/her airman and medical records prior to a serious job search. Having in your possession what others have or can obtain about you helps to level the playing field.

As far as getting a job goes, if an application asks if the person has ever received a violation and he has, he has to answer "yes." If he is asked if he has ever received a warning and he has, the answer is still "yes." I would not split hairs between verbal or written warning. One should not volunteer information, but, if a question is asked, it must be answered honestly. And, be sure to listen to the question. If it is indeed asked if one has anything on one's record, answer only that question.

Hope that helps some more.
 

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