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Warrant Officers

What you speak of is exactly what the warrant officer program is all about in the Army. Retain pilots in a lower pay rate with no upward promotion. Navy and Air Force have been more geared toward line officers only, although in the past the Navy has had flying warrant officer pilots in non-tactical airplanes.
Line officers are supposed to be leaders of troops into battle. You need some that have professional background to understand the decisions that they would be making later on. Do you want a general or admiral making decisions about airplane policy and tactics without any good background. CDR's in the Navy have attained enough experience and demonstrated enough leadership that they should be leading something, not just flying airplanes. At least that is the Navy's position.
Warrant Officers also have command billets in the Army. They are at the CW5 or CW4 level and are commanding flying detachments in Iraq and Afghanistan. However Warrants are technical officers and stay flying for their carreer. Warrants are also commissioned officers above the rank of CW2. This allows the command billeting among other duties. Pay at CW5 is generally better than O5. But it takes a long time to get the rank if ever.

This is just for gouge ref how the Army works too...

Birdman
BTV
 
plenty of NATO countries have career O-3s and the like. That system enables excellent small unit tactics, flying, etc. Not sure how it does at creating the multi-star generals and admirals. I mean, let's face it, most of those countries have a smaller total military than the average O-7 has command of over here.

The U.S. does it different. I guess our military feels that it gets better O-6 and above by making the O-4 and below either go up or out. Not sure it works in practice, but that is the theory.

If they denied overgrade wavers for places like New Orleans, then there are going to be some seriously undermanned squadrons. Almost sounds like yet another active duty Navy ploy to kill the reserves, again.

I mean that took away the reserve P-3 squadrons planes a few years ago. Now they get to 'share' with the active duty. Pretty soon the Navy reserve will be nothing more than a man-power pool for the active duty. And a low-morale, poorly trained one at that. But the admirals that did it will be long retired and not pay a price for their 'leadership.'
 
Thanks for the update....

Warrant Officers also have command billets in the Army. They are at the CW5 or CW4 level and are commanding flying detachments in Iraq and Afghanistan. However Warrants are technical officers and stay flying for their carreer. Warrants are also commissioned officers above the rank of CW2. This allows the command billeting among other duties. Pay at CW5 is generally better than O5. But it takes a long time to get the rank if ever.

This is just for gouge ref how the Army works too...

Birdman
BTV

Thanks for the update on the Warrant program, I wasn't sure except that Ive had several junior enlisted get picked for warrant in the army flying helos, seemed like a good opportunity for them since the Navy limits it's warrants to IT duties and a few other specialties. I think the P3's just took in some flying warrants though so they are trying to start something. The navy looks at all it's officers as future admirals until otherwise shown, therefore there is an up or out mentality throughout the whole officer corps.
 

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