Navy Reserve looking for more pilots......

[taxi1wire]

Agreed

O-5s have never been eligible (at least in my era). Junior, most qualified is the norm. You should know that (or they should have told you that when you applied). SELRES O-5s (and for that matter FOS'd O-3s) only have so much time they can soak up in the Navy. FOS'd O-4s on the other hand are like Herpes.

Every squadron that looks at a candidate has to take into account the amount of "work" they can get out of him/her before they need to move up/out.



BTW -- WHY THE F IS THIS ON THE MAJORS BOARD?

Bavarian,

You and I are from the same era, and I knew well my chances of getting picked up for those slots a few years back, but figured "ah what the hell"...stranger things have happened.
The good news is maybe the Navy will adopt some of the AF guard ideas and allow old fa... another chance to fly in a bag, I know all of my buds getting whacked from the airlines might bite at this chance, I have forwarded the Msg a few weeks back to them.

 

[Full of LUV]

Update....

Bavarian,

You and I are from the same era, and I knew well my chances of getting picked up for those slots a few years back, but figured "ah what the hell"...stranger things have happened.
The good news is maybe the Navy will adopt some of the AF guard ideas and allow old fa... another chance to fly in a bag, I know all of my buds getting whacked from the airlines might bite at this chance, I have forwarded the Msg a few weeks back to them.

For the first time in recent history, about 35% of the CDR overgrade waivers this FY were denied. That is what has led to the massive shortfalls of bodies in almost all squadrons. Almost all squadrons are 3-8 pilots short. But given this enviornment, it is almost impossible to affiliate as an 05 unless possibly you go to a squadron that is 50% undermanned like the C130 unit in Philly or New Orleans.

 

[Bigoober]

Huh? Reeeeeelly?

Yep, reeeeeeeelly.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Yep, reeeeeeeelly.

You do know there are two Navy Gulfstream squadrons at Andrews.

 

[mmase7]

For the first time in recent history, about 35% of the CDR overgrade waivers this FY were denied. That is what has led to the massive shortfalls of bodies in almost all squadrons. Almost all squadrons are 3-8 pilots short. But given this enviornment, it is almost impossible to affiliate as an 05 unless possibly you go to a squadron that is 50% undermanned like the C130 unit in Philly or New Orleans.

Overgrade waivers were denied big time (with the exception of the BRAC squadrons out there). It's not like it usd to be as drill allocation has shrunk thanks to the budget. There are plenty of O-5's that are on the chopping block (or have been booted already) that would love to stay and fly or write awards, evals,you name it. The Admiral has different thoughts on keeping O-5's around yet we all know the experience they provide a squadron is invaluable. That was brought up recently and it ws shot down wthout batting an eye. What would you rather do....Sit in a cockpit or sit behind a desk gouging out your eyes with a pencil at the local NOSC knowing that you'll never make O-6? I'm pretty sure, 99.9% of us would rather ride it out as an O-5, flying hardware and not worrying about the next promotion. Decisions are based on the fiscal restraints and that will never change...My 2 cents as a command screened O-5 who will never see the front office.

 

[Jolly Roger]

This sucks! As an O-5 reservist I am standing up to this discrimination! No better than age discrimination... or is it harassment? Yes, I feel herresed....harassed....

That's it, next year I'm quitting (for the third time). Time for another beer.....

 

[GPilot]

You do know there are two Navy Gulfstream squadrons at Andrews.

Looking at his profile I think he knows.

 

[Bigoober]

Dup post

 

[Bigoober]

Looking at his profile I think he knows.

Yep, I do.

Since most O-5s were putting in for the one I am talking about, I went with it. Some were even senior to the CO. Again, troops aren't so happy there especially when one reservist sits across from a CO of that squadron and hears that that CO hates reservists. Not that anyone couldn't tell.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Yep, I do.

Since most O-5s were putting in for the one I am talking about, I went with it. Some were even senior to the CO. Again, troops aren't so happy there especially when one reservist sits across from a CO of that squadron and hears that that CO hates reservists. Not that anyone couldn't tell.

Well, you meant the other squadron. Not a place for SELRES. Never has been. They don't know what to do with them.

 

[satpak77]

Overgrade waivers were denied big time (with the exception of the BRAC squadrons out there). It's not like it usd to be as drill allocation has shrunk thanks to the budget. There are plenty of O-5's that are on the chopping block (or have been booted already) that would love to stay and fly or write awards, evals,you name it. The Admiral has different thoughts on keeping O-5's around yet we all know the experience they provide a squadron is invaluable. That was brought up recently and it ws shot down wthout batting an eye. What would you rather do....Sit in a cockpit or sit behind a desk gouging out your eyes with a pencil at the local NOSC knowing that you'll never make O-6? I'm pretty sure, 99.9% of us would rather ride it out as an O-5, flying hardware and not worrying about the next promotion. Decisions are based on the fiscal restraints and that will never change...My 2 cents as a command screened O-5 who will never see the front office.

Not a military guy, but read your post and this brings up a question.

What is the most senior officer rank that will still keep one fairly active in the cockpit? I would assume Captain or Major

With that said, how many officers would (if they could) tell Uncle Sam, "look let me (actively) fly forever, I will stay a Captain for 20 years."

But I believe the general military environment is that of promote promote promote is it not?

How many guys would do the above if they could?

 

[Full of LUV]

Probably too many....

Not a military guy, but read your post and this brings up a question.

What is the most senior officer rank that will still keep one fairly active in the cockpit? I would assume Captain or Major

With that said, how many officers would (if they could) tell Uncle Sam, "look let me (actively) fly forever, I will stay a Captain for 20 years."

But I believe the general military environment is that of promote promote promote is it not?

How many guys would do the above if they could?

What you speak of is exactly what the warrant officer program is all about in the Army. Retain pilots in a lower pay rate with no upward promotion. Navy and Air Force have been more geared toward line officers only, although in the past the Navy has had flying warrant officer pilots in non-tactical airplanes.
Line officers are supposed to be leaders of troops into battle. You need some that have professional background to understand the decisions that they would be making later on. Do you want a general or admiral making decisions about airplane policy and tactics without any good background. CDR's in the Navy have attained enough experience and demonstrated enough leadership that they should be leading something, not just flying airplanes. At least that is the Navy's position.

 

[TUPAK]

Yep, I do.

Since most O-5s were putting in for the one I am talking about, I went with it. Some were even senior to the CO. Again, troops aren't so happy there especially when one reservist sits across from a CO of that squadron and hears that that CO hates reservists. Not that anyone couldn't tell.

Hasn't changed much huh? I was thinking about coming back....PM me and let me know if I should.

 

[GPilot]

Yep, I do.

Since most O-5s were putting in for the one I am talking about, I went with it. Some were even senior to the CO. Again, troops aren't so happy there especially when one reservist sits across from a CO of that squadron and hears that that CO hates reservists. Not that anyone couldn't tell.

I got that vibe and left...a shame it sounds like it hasn't improved.

 

[GPilot]

Hasn't changed much huh? I was thinking about coming back....PM me and let me know if I should.

I thought you were the squadron flight surgeon?...