Navy Pilots better than Air Force

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I have been going to the Chicago Air and Water Show for some twenty years now. Meaning that I have seen the Blue Angels there and the Thunderbirds both ten times. And I will say that I have seen the Blue Angels touch each other 0 times in flight and the Thunderbirds touch 1 time in flight(this Saturday) dropping a missle rail into the water very near my boat.

The only thing I can reason from this is that Navy pilots are far superior to Air Force pilots.
 

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Navy pilots don't have to learn to land, they just fly it into the ground so they can spend more time practicing everything else
 

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That's nothing ... I hear Naval pilots are always touching each other on the ground. :D


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Snakum said:
That's nothing ... I hear Naval pilots are always touching each other on the ground. :D


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HaHa damn theres funny stuff being posted all over today. Ive seen 4 of em touching each other in fingertip formation.
 

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viper548 said:
Navy pilots don't have to learn to land, they just fly it into the ground so they can spend more time practicing everything else
I think the quip went something like flaring to land is like squatting to pee.

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siucavflight said:
I have been going to the Chicago Air and Water Show for some twenty years now. Meaning that I have seen the Blue Angels there and the Thunderbirds both ten times. And I will say that I have seen the Blue Angels touch each other 0 times in flight and the Thunderbirds touch 1 time in flight(this Saturday) dropping a missle rail into the water very near my boat.

The only thing I can reason from this is that Navy pilots are far superior to Air Force pilots.
Thanks for your expert opinion. Anyone with some actual experience in tactical aviation would use other more relevant criteria to judge a fighter pilot's skill. I'm pretty sure your assessment of military demo teams is of very little concern to those who have "been there - done that". :rolleyes:
 

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AdlerDriver said:
Thanks for your expert opinion. Anyone with some actual experience in tactical aviation would use other more relevant criteria to judge a fighter pilot's skill. I'm pretty sure your assessment of military demo teams is of very little concern to those who have "been there - done that". :rolleyes:

did you actually not get it?
 

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AdlerDriver said:
Thanks for your expert opinion. Anyone with some actual experience in tactical aviation would use other more relevant criteria to judge a fighter pilot's skill. I'm pretty sure your assessment of military demo teams is of very little concern to those who have "been there - done that". :rolleyes:
Like I said earlier, never seen Navy pilots touch. But I have seen Air Force pilots touch. Air Force=1 Navy =0
 

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Wow, I thought that I would get more responses from you airforce guys, guess you know when you have been beat.
 

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Here is how I rank the skill level of pilots

1. Civil Air Patrol

2. Navy

3. Airforce

4. Everyone Else
 

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Neither.

The deadliest aviators in the skies wear the eagle, globe, and anchor!

<insert Marine Hymn here>

Actually, if you plot the bell curve of pilot skills, tactical expertise, and training...all 3 branches with TacAir probably overlay each other with little overlap.

Back in the day, it was obvious that the USAF abandoned the "work on what ya need to work on" way of life, and adopted a doctrine of deconstructing each aspect of mission employment, and working on it until you have it wired. When the 4th generation fighters arrived (F-15, F-16, etc) the new doctrine worked, due to the change in emphasis from instinct, to weapon system employment.

Developing the correct "contract" within your flight of fighters, and then sticking with the plan has made them very successful. All-aspect missiles can make any dweeb the Red Baron if he drives a point-and-shoot jet! The new gouge is getting to the merge with all the bad guys in the 'chutes already.

The Navy has always put emphasis on how you look around the boat, and being able to improvise tactically. The F-14 caused some problems initially in the fleet because most of the squadrons flew it like a Super Phantom, and didn't develop tactics as quickly as the USAF.

The Marines were still fly their Dad's jet (I did!), put an emphasis on putting the bombs on bad guys close to the good guys, knife fighting air-to-air, and trying to avoid a PCS FAC tour!

For a while, the 4th generation fighters were better than the pilots who flew them. The gizmos could do more than the gizmo operator could optimize.

Top Gun, FWS (USAF Fighter Weapons School), and WTI (Marine Weapons & Tactics Instructor school) eventually adopted the USAF method of super-jet training, and all 3 services seem to be wringing all of the capability out of their aircraft.

The "best" are those that are getting the most flight time that month, either in real-world ops, or in training that is as real-world as the budget allows.

In conclusion, the best are the Marines, because the rest are pansies.

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P.S. As far as who the best trash-hauler, tanker, helo, and patrol pilots are...who cares?
 

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RichardRambone said:
HaHa dang theres funny stuff being posted all over today. Ive seen 4 of em touching each other in fingertip formation.
Did they land as 2 couples?
 

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AdlerDriver said:
Thanks for your expert opinion. Anyone with some actual experience in tactical aviation would use other more relevant criteria to judge a fighter pilot's skill. I'm pretty sure your assessment of military demo teams is of very little concern to those who have "been there - done that". :rolleyes:

QUICK, GET THIS MAN A SENSE OF HUMOR, STAT!!!!!


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The AF labors under the mistaken impression that power controls speed while pitch controls altitude. The USN correctly operates under the law that pitch controls speed and power altitude.

There's your answer.
 

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siucavflight said:
Like I said earlier, never seen Navy pilots touch. But I have seen Air Force pilots touch. Air Force=1 Navy =0
Well, I've seen the #5 and #6 from the Blues touch. Navy=1, AF=0. Maybe we should consult a statistical analyst.
 
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