Navy equivalent of Air Force 781?

[SandyLab]

In the Air Force we use the AF 781 to convert our flight times from hours:minutes to decimal. I'm curious what the other services use. Army, Navy, etc.? Do we all use the same charts in the military or are we recording times differently?

 

[mule]

Navy uses "yellow sheets." Actually, I think the official name is Naval Flight Record (NAVFLIR)...but, like so many things in the Navy, one base calls it one thing and another calls it something else. A copy can be found here:

http://safetycenter.navy.mil/aviati...s/References/OPNAV 3710/3710_7t MARCH 04.pdf

Figure 10-2 shows an example. Just above 10-2, you will see what the Navy bubbas use to sign for the plane.

 

[SandyLab]

Thanks mule, but I don't see the time conversion chart like we have on the Air Force 781 where we convert the hours and minutes to hours and tenths.

 

[HoursHore]

In my squadron many moons ago it was entered into a computer (NALCOMIS) and it automatically converted the times for you.

 

[mule]

Re-reading your question, I understand more about what you are asking...I think.

You want to know if we are all on the same page as far as:

1-6 minutes = .1
7-12 minutes = .2

etc....

Is that what you are wondering?

 

[SandyLab]

Re-reading your question, I understand more about what you are asking...I think.

You want to know if we are all on the same page as far as:

1-6 minutes = .1
7-12 minutes = .2

etc....

Is that what you are wondering?

Yes, what does the Navy use for the conversion table? Or do they have one?

 

[mule]

It is all done by the mighty computer. I will check the next time I am in...but I believe it is just like the USAF.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Yes, what does the Navy use for the conversion table? Or do they have one?

The Air Force has a 455 page manual and at least three 0-5s staffed in an office somewhere in a remote part of the Upper Midwest that closely guards, updates and disseminates the calibration codes for changing minutes into decimals.

We in the Navy have:

1-6 minutes is .1 ... 7-12 minutes is .2 ... 13-18 mnutes is ...

Capeche?

 

[guppygoshawk]

In the Air Force we use the AF 781 to convert our flight times from hours:minutes to decimal. I'm curious what the other services use. Army, Navy, etc.? Do we all use the same charts in the military or are we recording times differently?

A solid grasp of fractions were a requirement prior to winging in the Navy. Afraid you're getting shorted?

 

[firstthird]

We in the Navy have:

1-6 minutes is .1 ... 7-12 minutes is .2 ... 13-18 mnutes is ...

Well, it used to be

1-2 min = .0
3-8 min = .1
9-14min = .2
etc.

I suspect it still is. The chart was on the back (?) of the yellow sheet, now the computer does it.

I think the real answer is that the navy uses real logbooks not some computer printout. so when you go to an airline interview you take your logbooks and some kind of spread sheet you ginned up to show how you converted your military time to that airline's civilian time according to their application.

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Yeah, the Navy uses SHARP. SHARP keeps us from having to do math in public.

 

[mule]

Well, it used to be

1-2 min = .0
3-8 min = .1
9-14min = .2
etc.

I suspect it still is.

You are correct...it is still this way...but, the computer does the work for you.

 

[huronip]

Thanks mule, but I don't see the time conversion chart like we have on the Air Force 781 where we convert the hours and minutes to hours and tenths.

The time conversion table is on the back side of the Navy yellow sheet.

 

[OrionFE]

You college boys kill me! In either service, you still probably have an enlisted person fill out your logbook for you.

OrionFE (Ret)

 

[firstthird]

Not anymore. I don't think I ever had anyone do the yellow sheet but a pilot during my 15 years of active/reserve flying.

Now, the ops petty officers did put the info into our paper logbooks since there is some regulation about making entries into your own logbook, or something. Heck, after SHARP (stick in the eye) came out, I spent more time trying to do that than I spent flying. Oh for good old Nalcommis.

Although, I think our crew chiefs did write down the times for us when I was flying C40s. I don't think I'd trust a pilot with keeping track of times if I was a crew chief either.

 

[OrionFE]

Not anymore. I don't think I ever had anyone do the yellow sheet but a pilot during my 15 years of active/reserve flying.

Now, the ops petty officers did put the info into our paper logbooks since there is some regulation about making entries into your own logbook, or something. Heck, after SHARP (stick in the eye) came out, I spent more time trying to do that than I spent flying. Oh for good old Nalcommis.

Although, I think our crew chiefs did write down the times for us when I was flying C40s. I don't think I'd trust a pilot with keeping track of times if I was a crew chief either.

Yes, in the P-3 community the pilots had to stay and input the NALCOMIS, the FE put in all the "gripes" and the OP's yeomens handled all the logbooks. As a Maintenence Chief/FE, I always knew where the airplane was as far as upcoming inspections and that would determine how much "fly what you want, log what you need" got done. Here in the civilian world, I as the FE track all the times and fill out the logbook and sometimes sign for the Captain (no not really)!