MSNBC: A CAL captain just died in flight. Plane making an emergency landing

[Erlanger]

The F.O. says that he thought the Capt. was sleeping. The question that the FAA will ask is how long did you let the Capt. "sleep" before you tryed to wake him or suspected something was wrong? They're going to want to know why did you let another crew member violate FAR's and sleep? Then the wife will sue claiming negligence cause if the F.O. followed FAR's and tryed to wake the Capt. right away maybe he could of been saved.

 

[lookin4better]

Commuter pilots calling people scabs. That's good stuff!!!

Commuter pilots... too funny.

 

[filejw]

After reading lots of post on two or three sites what I find pretty funny is all these folks discussing medical issues and 99% couldn't have gotten to within 100 miles of a medical school admission...LOL

 

[aewanabe]

God speed. Prayers for the Captain's family.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

The F.O. says that he thought the Capt. was sleeping. The question that the FAA will ask is how long did you let the Capt. "sleep" before you tryed to wake him or suspected something was wrong? They're going to want to know why did you let another crew member violate FAR's and sleep? Then the wife will sue claiming negligence cause if the F.O. followed FAR's and tryed to wake the Capt. right away maybe he could of been saved.

Welcome to America. Very feasible scenario.

 

[AKAAB]

They're going to want to know why did you let another crew member violate FAR's and sleep? Then the wife will sue claiming negligence cause if the F.O. followed FAR's and tryed to wake the Capt. right away maybe he could of been saved.

What specific FAR prohibiting napping will they cite? Just curious...

 

[chqflyer]

91.13 Careless and reckless operation of an aircraft.
Absolutely asinine, but the catch-all used by the Feds
when someone must hang.

 

[CessnaFan]

When I woke up from my nap I noticed that the Capt was still in his. I tried to wake him but to no avail.....

Of course any FO worth his salt will say he looked over, saw that the Capt had fallen asleep, and went to wake him. Anything short of that means that you don't have the little grey cells to be a pilot...

The F.O. says that he thought the Capt. was sleeping. The question that the FAA will ask is how long did you let the Capt. "sleep" before you tryed to wake him or suspected something was wrong? They're going to want to know why did you let another crew member violate FAR's and sleep? Then the wife will sue claiming negligence cause if the F.O. followed FAR's and tryed to wake the Capt. right away maybe he could of been saved.

 

[glasspilot1]

The F.O. says that he thought the Capt. was sleeping.

He should have never admitted that. He should have said: "I looked over and I thought he had just nodded off. I tried to wake him up and realized he was unconscious".

Hope he doesn't get into hot water over this slip of the tongue.

 

[gator_hater]

Since it is an eight hour flight a reasonable scenario to me is that he went to crew rest to catch a nap and never came back. When they went to check on him he was dead. Sounds reasonable and more probable to me.

 

[EWR_FO]

Since it is an eight hour flight a reasonable scenario to me is that he went to crew rest to catch a nap and never came back. When they went to check on him he was dead. Sounds reasonable and more probable to me.

He was in his seat when he passed away.

 

[airplane wizard]

So who was pic for the rest of the flight?

 

[EWR_FO]

So who was pic for the rest of the flight?

I am assuming it was the FO with the IRO becoming SIC, I believe most of the decisions were made on a conference call with dispatch, the CPO, senior management, and medlink. The union representatives were pleased with how the whole thing was handled from the company's perspective, a pleasant surprise nowadays.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

So who was pic for the rest of the flight?

The lead FA. She had been with the company when CAL operated the Wright Flyer so she had seniority over the two relatively junior First Officers.

 

[PCL_128]

The lead FA. She had been with the company when CAL operated the Wright Flyer so she had seniority over the two relatively junior First Officers.

Based on what I've been reading from the EWR Council's Magenta Line newsletter, it sounds like the FAs pretty much think they run the show all the time anyway.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Based on what I've been reading from the EWR Council's Magenta Line newsletter, it sounds like the FAs pretty much think they run the show all the time anyway.

You mean they don't?

:beer:

 

[goodgig]

http://cf.alpa.org/internet/alp/2000/oct00p30.htm

 

[SFR]

My target age for retirement is 49 or sooner. I will take a COLA by then too. Flying wears you out. I don't fly too much (250 or less per year) and long term health is one of my reasons for that.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

http://cf.alpa.org/internet/alp/2000/oct00p30.htm

Reading this scared the heck out of me.

 

[relief tube]

Exactly. What year at the commuters do they let the FO's start landing? Especially when they dont even have a Commercial License.

hey buddy, it's the legacies trying to compete with your $49 fares that let to the regional hiring boom of now 50% of all departures. Try paying your flight attendants during training and getting your own parking passes supplied and maybee the legacies can keep more flying and stop giving it to 200 hr wonder pilots.

As stupid as you think I sound, can you refute any of the above? nope