There are only 30 recalls on the latest bid. Nobody will get bumped to the 190 FO position on this bid. That would be impossible with returning furloughees. The only way that could happen is if a returning furloughed pilot bumped an active pilot out of his position, as the 30 vacant positions available are NOT 190 positions...
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There are only 30 recalls on the latest bid. Nobody will get bumped to the 190 FO position on this bid. That would be impossible with returning furloughees. The only way that could happen is if a returning furloughed pilot bumped an active pilot out of his position, as the 30 vacant positions available are NOT 190 positions...
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Actually, I think what might be setting forth (if I remember correctly) someone said, with the delay, the 190 guys could bid other equipment since they haven't been trained yet???? Dunno. But if that's the case, they could bid off the 190 and if they are Sr. to those that took the recall first time, then possibly bump them down??? Dunno.....only way I could think it would happen though...
Again it was jumpseat banter.
The example he had was recalled pilots go to the airbus or 737. Months pass by then, a new system bid has a reduction in 737 or AB flying and a gain of 190 flying with no furlough recalls. The junior pilots on the reduced aircraft would get bumped back to the 190.
Not like it would happen but it could in that scenario.
The example he had was recalled pilots go to the airbus or 737. Months pass by then, a new system bid has a reduction in 737 or AB flying and a gain of 190 flying with no furlough recalls. The junior pilots on the reduced aircraft would get bumped back to the 190.
Not like it would happen but it could in that scenario.
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Just receive a letter from Hogg stating that over the next several months there will be more recalls into the 190 as well as Group II aircraft. He also mentions positions opening at AWA. I think they are trying to get a handle on the recall process as it looks like it will start moving a little more rapidly in the near future...
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Yeah I got it too. 1 page from Hogg about possible recalls in the near future -- and 3 pages about a newhire class at Republic on Nov 6th. Included payrates, benefits, training pay (none for first 30 days), hotels (double occupancy in training), etc. Came with a J4J preference sheet.
The interesting part of Hogg's letter was the following statement:
"...we will be sending letters to pilots in a seniority range that could possibly be eligible for recall. This notification letter will ask you of your intention to accept recall on either a Group II aircraft of the EMB190 aircraft. Once we have determined which pilots have expressed a desire to return to active status at US Airways, those pilots recalled will receive a recall package and training class assignment."
I see. Standby to standby for a letter.
If a pilot does not return this first letter (and therefore makes no preference) what will they do?
As usual, the silence from the furlough administrator is deafening.
The interesting part of Hogg's letter was the following statement:
"...we will be sending letters to pilots in a seniority range that could possibly be eligible for recall. This notification letter will ask you of your intention to accept recall on either a Group II aircraft of the EMB190 aircraft. Once we have determined which pilots have expressed a desire to return to active status at US Airways, those pilots recalled will receive a recall package and training class assignment."
I see. Standby to standby for a letter.
If a pilot does not return this first letter (and therefore makes no preference) what will they do?
As usual, the silence from the furlough administrator is deafening.
I thought that was interesting too. It seems they want to poll the furloughees about returning, and only offer recall to those that indicated they would come back without actually going through the list with a firm recall offer. I don't know what happens to those that don't get the letter or just fail to respond...
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How are you coming up with 45 recalls,what is your source or method?
The December bid had 15 recalls. That was messed up by a delay in the 190 deliveries. This latest bid for Jan. had 30 recalls. Basically the company re-ran the Dec bid along with the latest one. That information came from Charmane in the Flt. Dept. The bid award is posted on the ALPA site and lists all positions at Airways. There are 45 blank FO positions yet to be filled. These are currently being filled. The final award with these positions filled should be out in about a week...
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In essence, that is true. Since the 15 recalls to the 190 did not start training, they are not frozen yet and they may accept a group II aircraft if it is still available when they get to that pilots number. They will start at the top of the list to fill these 45 positions. The 15 that accepted the 190 were not allowed to bid as an active pilot. They basically joined the additional 30 recalls and made this recall a single event that will fill 45 positions.
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I guess that call sign is better than a sharp stick in the eye. When I flew in the military, B-52's from Barksdale would use the call sign "Doom". Now there's a great call sign to be flying around with.
Still though, I think the call sign should remain USAir,just makes more sense since the name of the company is US Airways.
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My opinions: a two syllable callsign is better than three. Plus, anything that eliminates the pilots who say "US Airs" is well worth it.
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That would be all the ex Piedmont types that say that. There was a world of difference in cultures when USAir bought Piedmont. It was quite an experience to fly with them. Depending on your crew,either northern division or southern division, had to say the politically correct things during the trips on the 727 as an engineer. The Piedmont guys were great fun to be with,the USAir guys were very stiff shirt for the most part. Both though were very good sticks. I believe this merger will go much smoother,will not have to re-live the civil war all over again!
Looking forward to flying with all you surfer dudes,hang ten!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That would be all the ex Piedmont types that say that. There was a world of difference in cultures when USAir bought Piedmont. It was quite an experience to fly with them. Depending on your crew,either northern division or southern division, had to say the politically correct things during the trips on the 727 as an engineer. The Piedmont guys were great fun to be with,the USAir guys were very stiff shirt for the most part. Both though were very good sticks. I believe this merger will go much smoother,will not have to re-live the civil war all over again!
Wanna bet....????
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Really??? I think after all you guys and gals have been through over there,you would have bigger fish to fry than what call sign you use on the radio. If it makes you feel any better, we aren't exactly thrilled with having our airplanes painted up in USAirways colors,either. "CACTUS" ...deal with it!!! Sheesh...
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I think us AWA guys are the ones that are going to have to be "dealing with it." We are getting screwed at every turn. After we lose our seniority the final slap in the face will be switching to the Us Air callsign. At least when the Cactus call sign is gone it will give the U-Turn guys something to bitch about for a few more months.....
I feel bad for the ex TWA guys/gals who will get screwed twice. Once as the acquired carrier and then again when they are part of the acquiring carrier.
I feel bad for the ex TWA guys/gals who will get screwed twice. Once as the acquired carrier and then again when they are part of the acquiring carrier.
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