More SWA Govt. Help...

[waveflyer]

Haters-

cmon bill - why not luv us since we've been propping up wages while still holding a profit for a decade now-

you like to go way back in history when it comes to wages- then be fair and go way back in history with all the govt attempts to keep wn down

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Wave...

We toss down on here often over stupid BS but I'll never argue your wages are up there and we SHOULD follow your lead.

History eh? So about that whole Love Field thingy, did you guys not know wayyyyy back when Herb spilled his Wild Turkey on that napkin that when you signed on the line that was dotted that DFW sold bonds to investors (capitalism) representing it as the intra-state airport? Love was meant to be a small local field and you guys sued to get the rules changed...... am I "Wright"? You guys run to the courts more often than an ambulance chaser.....all in the name of LUV (Cue Bono)......

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Who's "you guys?" Air Force guys? We used to not make as much as Delta guys....but now a LTC makes much more than a Delta guy. I guess that's because we would never stand to pay cuts.

Anybody want to take this??

I just couldn't imagine a deployment with this tool....

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Right Lumberg! How long was Delta on the Govt. Nipple?

Never....unless you are talking Military Charters or the times we were activated for the CRAF flying.....Did you guys answer that call to get people to the Gulf?? I figure you could get there in 5 stops, not unlike a tough junior schedule.

Who we kidding....they only called the people they could count on to move large aircraft.....737's weren't on the menu.

Other than that, I can't think of any other times we were on your Uncle Sam's teet.....

 

[Tanker Clown]

Anybody want to take this??

I just couldn't imagine a deployment with this tool....

Billy boy, You should have shown this much fire when you guys were giving away all of your pay to mgt. Then maybe AF guys wouldn't think your pay scales were a joke.

BTW, I hear a SWA FO make the same money a Song Capt makes flying the 737. Messed up....

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Who's Song again? You are the only toolbag who brings it up on here......

You better hope you get a job soon Tanker, you live in a trailer and pretty soon you'll be FLYING out of one.....

 

[GuppyWN]

Wave...

We toss down on here often over stupid BS but I'll never argue your wages are up there and we SHOULD follow your lead.

History eh? So about that whole Love Field thingy, did you guys not know wayyyyy back when Herb spilled his Wild Turkey on that napkin that when you signed on the line that was dotted that DFW sold bonds to investors (capitalism) representing it as the intra-state airport? Love was meant to be a small local field and you guys sued to get the rules changed...... am I "Wright"? You guys run to the courts more often than an ambulance chaser.....all in the name of LUV (Cue Bono)......

The bond was for CURRENT Love Field airlines and was indeed intended to force them to DFW. Why? To pay for it of course with taxes and fees. WN came into the picture AFTER the initial bond and was not required to sign.

Timing is everything. We could STILL go to DFW anytime we wanted. We don't WANT to. in 2014 we'll have another 100 reasons a day not to. :laugh:

Gup

 

[mdf]

Never....unless you are talking Military Charters or the times we were activated for the CRAF flying.....Did you guys answer that call to get people to the Gulf?? I figure you could get there in 5 stops, not unlike a tough junior schedule.

Who we kidding....they only called the people they could count on to move large aircraft.....737's weren't on the menu.

Other than that, I can't think of any other times we were on your Uncle Sam's teet.....

Well then I guess you forgot about that little period from 2005-2007. The one where "Uncle Sam" gave you protection from creditors, and helped you dump your debt's on the taxpayer. I would rather you just said "Thank You" to guy's like us, and go on your merry double breasted way.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Well then I guess you forgot about that little period from 2005-2007. The one where "Uncle Sam" gave you protection from creditors, and helped you dump your debt's on the taxpayer. I would rather you just said "Thank You" to guy's like us, and go on your merry double breasted way.

Really?? Is that how it was?? On the TAXPAYER???

Seriously, get an Effing clue before you try to debate on here with the adults. DIP financing was lined up by banking institutions who happily traded debt for equity. Most have been paid off and some are getting the juice while Delta pays it back. ALL PRIVATE......you Glenn Beck idiots think EVERYTHING is paid by the taxpayer now.....

Again, BANKS provided the cash, the law of this capitalistic (your buzzword) society was applied. If you don't like it, we could have put you people out of business in the late 80's if i weren't for those same anti-trust and consumer protection laws. Although, Delta never attempted to fight SWA,I'm not sure we could have won that fight, but AA tried.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Lumberg! Look at that fire in your belly. Let's hope it's still there next time they come asking for concessions!

 

[waveflyer]

Bottom line is that capitalism depends on competition- when mergers happen- measures do need to happen to keep a competitive environment- as others said- what carrier would you rather see those slots go to? Republic?

 

[mdf]

Really?? Is that how it was?? On the TAXPAYER???

Seriously, get an Effing clue before you try to debate on here with the adults. DIP financing was lined up by banking institutions who happily traded debt for equity. Most have been paid off and some are getting the juice while Delta pays it back. ALL PRIVATE......you Glenn Beck idiots think EVERYTHING is paid by the taxpayer now.....

Again, BANKS provided the cash, the law of this capitalistic (your buzzword) society was applied. If you don't like it, we could have put you people out of business in the late 80's if i weren't for those same anti-trust and consumer protection laws. Although, Delta never attempted to fight SWA,I'm not sure we could have won that fight, but AA tried.

Call me what you want, but only a complete tool would start a thread about someone getting govt. help after his company was in bankruptcy for 2 years. Loosen up one of your jacket buttons, look in the mirror, and say this: "I am good enough, smart enough, and doggone it people like me".

 

[airport757]

It is true....Delta did not take a single dime from the government during bankruptcy. Unless you are advocating not having a legal system this not a government thing like you are trying to imply.

 

[Whataburger]

Pure and simple: We position ourselves to take advantage of any oppoutunity that presents itself. This has been beneficial to us for 37 years.

 

[Whataburger]

(Reuters) - United Airlines parent UAL Corp (UAUA.O) won U.S. antitrust approval on Friday to acquire Continental Airlines (CAL.N), a deal that will create the world's largest air carrier.

The Justice Department said it closed its investigation into the deal after the combining airlines agreed to give up some takeoff and landing rights at its Newark airport hub to low-fare carrier Southwest Airlines (LUV.N). (Reporting by Jeremy Pelofsky and James Vicini; Editing by Gary Hill)


I wonder how much of this "Agreement" the Airlines actually had a say in.......Looks like another Government attempt to help prop up Southwest.

Oh well, maybe the pizza parties extend to the DOT and Justice Department.......I'll bet they love the big screen!!

Might not of happened if USair and Delta were not so greedy with the LGA slots.

I believe we are the last airline on the list to need "propping up" from the gub'mt.

You just became the world's largest air carrier. Why do you care so much about our little Texas low fare carrier? Is it fair or fare?

You and the General are moving large metal and important people all over the world living a lavish lifestyle in far-off places. Zebra in Johannasburg, coffee in Colombia, the smell of tulips in Holland, fish and chips in London, Curry in Kuwait, mai tai's in Hawaii, fresh ice in Iceland, wodka in Russia, and the list goes on to how awesome your pilots and company are. Can't you just let us have our niche of getting the kids to LBB to see Grandma once a year for $39. Why all the haters!

 

[redflyer65]

Jealousy?

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Might not of happened if USair and Delta were not so greedy with the LGA slots.

Oh really?? How so? Spreading them to 5 different airlines and yours wasn't included.....that's greed??

I wonder how much those lawyers cost who filed the complaints for you?

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Jealousy?

You got me, I have a cool Leather jeacket and flag tie fetish......

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Pure and simple: We position ourselves to take advantage of any oppoutunity that presents itself. This has been beneficial to us for 37 years.

One of the best, real, explanations of your success. Thanks.....seriously, instead of the usual

 

[Grandpa +65]

Hey... be polite.

Puerto Rican suitcase, please.

Gup

Hey be easy with Puerto Ricans I`ve seen more plastic bags carry-on in domestic flights than caribbean flights.:laugh: