More SWA Govt. Help...

[waveflyer]

Bottom line is that capitalism depends on competition- when mergers happen- measures do need to happen to keep a competitive environment- as others said- what carrier would you rather see those slots go to? Republic?

 

[mdf]

Really?? Is that how it was?? On the TAXPAYER???

Seriously, get an Effing clue before you try to debate on here with the adults. DIP financing was lined up by banking institutions who happily traded debt for equity. Most have been paid off and some are getting the juice while Delta pays it back. ALL PRIVATE......you Glenn Beck idiots think EVERYTHING is paid by the taxpayer now.....

Again, BANKS provided the cash, the law of this capitalistic (your buzzword) society was applied. If you don't like it, we could have put you people out of business in the late 80's if i weren't for those same anti-trust and consumer protection laws. Although, Delta never attempted to fight SWA,I'm not sure we could have won that fight, but AA tried.

Call me what you want, but only a complete tool would start a thread about someone getting govt. help after his company was in bankruptcy for 2 years. Loosen up one of your jacket buttons, look in the mirror, and say this: "I am good enough, smart enough, and doggone it people like me".

 

[airport757]

It is true....Delta did not take a single dime from the government during bankruptcy. Unless you are advocating not having a legal system this not a government thing like you are trying to imply.

 

[Whataburger]

Pure and simple: We position ourselves to take advantage of any oppoutunity that presents itself. This has been beneficial to us for 37 years.

 

[Whataburger]

(Reuters) - United Airlines parent UAL Corp (UAUA.O) won U.S. antitrust approval on Friday to acquire Continental Airlines (CAL.N), a deal that will create the world's largest air carrier.

The Justice Department said it closed its investigation into the deal after the combining airlines agreed to give up some takeoff and landing rights at its Newark airport hub to low-fare carrier Southwest Airlines (LUV.N). (Reporting by Jeremy Pelofsky and James Vicini; Editing by Gary Hill)


I wonder how much of this "Agreement" the Airlines actually had a say in.......Looks like another Government attempt to help prop up Southwest.

Oh well, maybe the pizza parties extend to the DOT and Justice Department.......I'll bet they love the big screen!!

Might not of happened if USair and Delta were not so greedy with the LGA slots.

I believe we are the last airline on the list to need "propping up" from the gub'mt.

You just became the world's largest air carrier. Why do you care so much about our little Texas low fare carrier? Is it fair or fare?

You and the General are moving large metal and important people all over the world living a lavish lifestyle in far-off places. Zebra in Johannasburg, coffee in Colombia, the smell of tulips in Holland, fish and chips in London, Curry in Kuwait, mai tai's in Hawaii, fresh ice in Iceland, wodka in Russia, and the list goes on to how awesome your pilots and company are. Can't you just let us have our niche of getting the kids to LBB to see Grandma once a year for $39. Why all the haters!

 

[redflyer65]

Jealousy?

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Might not of happened if USair and Delta were not so greedy with the LGA slots.

Oh really?? How so? Spreading them to 5 different airlines and yours wasn't included.....that's greed??

I wonder how much those lawyers cost who filed the complaints for you?

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Jealousy?

You got me, I have a cool Leather jeacket and flag tie fetish......

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Pure and simple: We position ourselves to take advantage of any oppoutunity that presents itself. This has been beneficial to us for 37 years.

One of the best, real, explanations of your success. Thanks.....seriously, instead of the usual

 

[Grandpa +65]

Hey... be polite.

Puerto Rican suitcase, please.

Gup

Hey be easy with Puerto Ricans I`ve seen more plastic bags carry-on in domestic flights than caribbean flights.:laugh:

 

[GuppyWN]

Hey be easy with Puerto Ricans I`ve seen more plastic bags carry-on in domestic flights than caribbean flights.:laugh:

I spent almost 10 years flying for a Puerto Rican family. I know a Puerto Rican suitcase when I see one!

I can't wait until we start Newark to San Juan!!! WooHoo. I'm a little too "white" for Old Town in San Juan but DANG I've had some good times there. It'll be fun to do it again being 20 years smarter - if you know what I mean!

Gup

 

[Full of LUV]

I spent almost 10 years flying for a Puerto Rican family. I know a Puerto Rican suitcase when I see one!

I can't wait until we start Newark to San Juan!!! WooHoo. I'm a little too "white" for Old Town in San Juan but DANG I've had some good times there. It'll be fun to do it again being 20 years smarter - if you know what I mean!

Gup

SWA to San Juan??? Now that would be news! Also, I thought the "brilliance" in the SWA business model was to avoid the "busy" city airports in favor of the outlying airports as to avoid delays and crowds...etc. Doesn't seem to be the model any longer.... When is SWA going to go into ORD and ATL?

 

[pilotyip]

SWA Low cost airline?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Might not of happened if USair and Delta were not so greedy with the LGA slots.

Really, how dare us do what we want with our slots!

I believe we are the last airline on the list to need "propping up" from the gub'mt.

No, you don't need gov't help, your company gets enough financial help in charging you guys to work there, and with your shabby maint. program.

You just became the world's largest air carrier. Why do you care so much about our little Texas low fare carrier? Is it fair or fare?

Why do you care so much about getting slots into LGA then? Aren't you just a low fare Texas carrier?

You and the General are moving large metal and important people all over the world living a lavish lifestyle in far-off places. Zebra in Johannasburg, coffee in Colombia, the smell of tulips in Holland, fish and chips in London, Curry in Kuwait, mai tai's in Hawaii, fresh ice in Iceland, wodka in Russia, and the list goes on to how awesome your pilots and company are. Can't you just let us have our niche of getting the kids to LBB to see Grandma once a year for $39. Why all the haters!

You forgot crime day in Newark.......You guys will fit right in there!

 

[StopNTSing]

When I saw this dude's name in red a week or so ago, I was hoping it was permanent. No such luck, I guess...
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[BILL LUMBERG]

awwww yeah......back by popular demand......somebody ask for SCOPE???

 

[BLUE BAYOU]

Pure and simple: We position ourselves to take advantage of any oppoutunity that presents itself. This has been beneficial to us for 37 years.

one airline comes to mind: ATA

 

[Whataburger]

one airline comes to mind: ATA

ATA seemed to be a nice airline. It is unfortunate that 911 and FedEx pulled the plug on them. Hopefully their pilots could take their global experience and find a sustainable living.

 

[Whataburger]

Really, how dare us do what we want with our slots!



No, you don't need gov't help, your company gets enough financial help in charging you guys to work there, and with your shabby maint. program.


Why do you care so much about getting slots into LGA then? Aren't you just a low fare Texas carrier?



You forgot crime day in Newark.......You guys will fit right in there!

Nahhhh. Don't worry about us in New York/New Joy-see. USair did not worry about us in Baltimore.

 

[1x1]

I'd love to work for swa. I hate those bass turds. I love taking 50 mile vectors towards juarez for those purple guppies. They must've sent extra cheese and pepperoni pies that day.

 

[waveflyer]

No conspiracy- just human nature- we're gamers and atc likes to move metal-

 

[Tanker Clown]

You got me, I have a cool Leather jeacket and flag tie fetish......

Hey Bill, bet you are jealous of SWA money...seeing how you get paid crap. I'd wear a leather jacket and a flag tie if it meant not making Delta's crummy pay.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Nahhhh. Don't worry about us in New York/New Joy-see. USair did not worry about us in Baltimore.

I'm not worried about you girls. Problem is, your management is :crying: to the DOJ about getting something they didn't pay for.
They need to talk to some of your new hires in regards to "paying for something.":angryfire:laugh:

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Hey Bill, bet you are jealous of SWA money...seeing how you get paid crap. I'd wear a leather jacket and a flag tie if it meant not making Delta's crummy pay.

Hey tanker, I bet you're jealous of anyone making money, because the only way you make it is on your knees!:blush::laugh:

 

[Chest Rockwell]

I'm not worried about you girls. Problem is, your management is :crying: to the DOJ about getting something they didn't pay for.
They need to talk to some of your new hires in regards to "paying for something.":angryfire:laugh:

You seem to be obsessed with this PFT fantasy.

Please give us an example of any SWA Pilot that cut a check to SWA for any part of his/her training. BTW, new-hires are actually paid with full medical benefits from day 1.

Alo, tell us in what way SWA gets to reduce the required training for new hires simply because they are typed in the B737.

State some facts or find something else to whine about.

 

[Moon-dog]

Good luck getting through to that idiot, he claims to work for DAL but he is to stupid to have a degree. Which I am sure he paid for, so he is an example of PFT. The LOSER.

 

[pilotyip]

Good luck getting through to that idiot, he claims to work for DAL but he is to stupid to have a degree. Which I am sure he paid for, so he is an example of PFT. The LOSER.

absolutely not true and a degree and being stupid are completely independant of each other

 

[Moon-dog]

As usual you are wrong. Nobody that's "stupid" has a degree. There are those that lack common sense that have a degree, but NOBODY that is as stupid as Scope's has a degree. Doubt you have any either, FWIW.

 

[Full of LUV]

As usual you are wrong. Nobody that's "stupid" has a degree. There are those that lack common sense that have a degree, but NOBODY that is as stupid as Scope's has a degree. Doubt you have any either, FWIW.

What..... Moon Dog, did you just fall off the turnip truck, even with 150 posts on FI and you don't know that Pilotyip is the biggest supporter of non-degree'd pilots on the internet.

 

[pilotyip]

What..... Moon Dog, did you just fall off the turnip truck, even with 150 posts on FI and you don't know that Pilotyip is the biggest supporter of non-degree'd pilots on the internet.

He is learning, besides, I think he has figured it out