More Furlough Rumblings at Flex

[flex*wife]

More questions than answers...

That meeting was last week. I was told it was nothing special, just a normal visit that they always do

The slots ain't there as of today. One who knows.

So maybe you can confirm why the Bombardier execs are at the training center today? Flightaware seems to confirm a visit on the 14th and another today... hmmm...

Two visits in one week by the big cheesies seems like more than "just a normal visit" Also didn't someone else say earlier Waterview was SUPER twittered up about this visit?

Anybody got anything from the all hands meeting yesterday? My husband said blah, blah, blah and I've heard that elsewhere too. Not like they'd actually tell y'all anything but maybe someone knows if these two events are related...

I'm REALLY hoping for something positive to keep my spirits up.

 

[Photoflight]

I was at the training center today and didn't hear anything about the Bombardier guys being there. Not that theres any reason to tell me but you figure something like that would leak out.

You're assuming that both flights were related to Flexjet stuff.

I was told the meeting was last week as well. Just general how are things, what are we doing to be proactive etc.. etc..

Was also told the slots rumor is BS

I would be twittered up as well if 50 people just got laid off.

 

[ArtVandalay]

Yeah Mr Mclain left when we pinned his number. Tuck the tail and leave when you have no fight; which is ok by me. I don't converse with those 604 folks anyway, I'm not old enough to get their jokes or humor, if any exists.

Dirtybeech, lmao dude!

 

[GSXR600]

Despite assurances from our chief pilot during his recent long-recurrent schtick that pilot levels were stable through the end of the year, it appears the company is getting ready for another round of deep furloughs.

An extremely reliable source says the training department has been told to set aside a goodly number of additional slots beginning in September, and since we're not hiring, that can only mean one thing: beaucoup downgrades. This source further stated that the number of pilots idled could be as high as sixty, with the layoffs divided into three waves of twenty.

I'm also hearing that Waterview is bracing for a mid-August visit from one of the honchos from Montreal, and that can't be good news, either.

So thanks for nothing, Beaner.

I was at the training center today and didn't hear anything about the Bombardier guys being there. Not that theres any reason to tell me but you figure something like that would leak out.

You're assuming that both flights were related to Flexjet stuff.

I was told the meeting was last week as well. Just general how are things, what are we doing to be proactive etc.. etc..

Was also told the slots rumor is BS

I would be twittered up as well if 50 people just got laid off.


back to the main topic........Mr Dooker would you care to tell us how reliable your source is? Looks like others are saying different!

 

[Dooker]

back to the main topic........Mr Dooker would you care to tell us how reliable your source is? Looks like others are saying different!

All I can say is, I consider him extremely reliable. He's a solid guy, verrrry senior, in a position to hear things we don't hear out on the line, etc., and when he approached me on the ramp last month and made a throat-slashing gesture and told me it didn't bode well, that I deserved to know, etc., I almost soiled my Hagars.

If he turns out to be wrong, so be it. I'm sure he'd prefer to be wrong--as would I.

 

[flex*wife]

I'm sorry I misunderstood what I was told. Executives WERE around today but at the waterview not the training center.

Maybe it's routine but I still think it's interesting.

Oh well.

 

[ArtVandalay]

If he's very senior and hears things we dont hear on the line then he must be an ACP and I don't believe any of those guys would share anything except fuel prices and vacation emails.

 

[netjetwife]

Do you guys not have some kind of pilot representatives that interact with management on your behalf and keep the group posted?

 

[harley30344]

Do you guys not have some kind of pilot representatives that interact with management on your behalf and keep the group posted?

Unbelievable---it ALWAYS comes back to this doesn't it? Sounds like an old broken record.

 

[netjetwife]

FYI, "some kind" is meant to cover non-union peers, acting in an advisory capacity. I'm curious if they have a system like that. I asked because I am interested in other fracs, and as a person who values information, I'm sympathetic to their (lack of info) situation.

Hint: When one has no interest in reading posts by a particular FI member(s), the appropriate response is to use the ignore function to customize your screen. How to: click on User CP, it's on the left side of the page, the last item under settings.

 

[GSXR600]

Unbelievable---it ALWAYS comes back to this doesn't it? Sounds like an old broken record.

Mr harley30344,
I think for the first time she (NJW) is just asking a question without a comparison (at least it souds like) to NJ, so l'll answer.

Mrs NJW,
To answer your question, yes we do have a group of folks that are supposed to represent our voice in front of managment, and they are called CAB. Have they done anything for us? mmmmm...I won't say, some of those folks are my friends, but I do have my own opinion.

 

[netjetwife]

Thanks, GSX... Does CAB = Captains Advisory Board? If so, does that mean only Captains can serve on it? Or only Captains get a report...

 

[GSXR600]

Crew Advisory Board......I think, not 100% sure that anyone can be part of it..

 

[netjetwife]

Crew...of course...but more than 2 in the CAB, I trust? Does the position come with a designated term? I'm wondering what the turn over is like and how often they meet. It doesn't sound like they were at last week's meeting (discussed in posts above) or there would have been a report, right?

 

[doh]

NJW, I don't want to ignore you all the time...just when you're being a buzzkill!:laugh:

 

[netjetwife]

Actually, it was a helpful hint for new posters...

Those of us who've been posting together awhile know that sometimes we agree... and other times we agree to disagree...

 

[flyzimex]

If he's very senior and hears things we dont hear on the line then he must be an ACP and I don't believe any of those guys would share anything except fuel prices and vacation emails.

One of my best friends was in the lay off round back in March/April. A month or two prior he had asked his ACP if he could move to a different base. My friend was told to standby since things were shaky and he was in the danger zone.

Luckily for my friend he landed a very good gig overseas, so his furlough was pretty much a blessing in disguise.

 

[Club ORD FO]

Actually i dont think the CAB really exists anymore. I mean come on, the last meeting was a year ago or more wasn't it?

 

[clydefastly]

Actually, it was a helpful hint for new posters...

Those of us who've been posting together awhile know that sometimes we agree... and other times we agree to disagree...

I think that is the problem most people have with you, is that you DON'T agree to disagree. You keep pushing your agenda and hijacking every single thread in the frac board. I know you have the best of intentions, but sometimes discretion and tact send a much more powerful message than constantly repeating your anthem every chance you get.

I don't mean any disrespect, just my take on why everyone is jumping on your back.

 

[cherry20's]

I think that is the problem most people have with you, is that you DON'T agree to disagree. You keep pushing your agenda and hijacking every single thread in the frac board. I know you have the best of intentions, but sometimes discretion and tact send a much more powerful message than constantly repeating your anthem every chance you get.

I don't mean any disrespect, just my take on why everyone is jumping on your back.

That pretty much hit the nail on the head! Why every thread?!? Maybe that's why its getting so old...

What if you start your own thread called "What my husband has done for everyone in the Fractional field" and you can post all day long about teamwork, sending in your cards and why you think every Fractional needs a union. Then all your husbands friends can post there with you and then everyone else that doesn't want to read all your union cheering doesn't have to because it won't be on EVERY other thread.

I'll start the thread for you if you want me too... Let me know

(gets off soapbox...)