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Green said:
Yeah Bush is a real friend of labor. Good deductive work there JoeMerchant. You're quite the crack detective. I just wish my w-2's reflected the pro labor Bush agenda.

But ALPA is??? Shouldn't ALPA be supporting "labor"??? I won't argue that Bush isn't pro-union, but how can everyone say that ALPA is in this case??? ALPA is showing it's true colors once again.
 
Because NWA Alpa would be unwise to risk putting thousands of their pilots permanently out of a job in order to try and save jobs at another union. It's really not that complicated. Alpa surmised that NWA could not financially weather a systemwide strike and chose to save their battle for a future date. Maybe a little weak but definitely not "anti labor."
 
Toecutter said:
Bush 1 allowed the EAL strike because thats what Frank wanted. He wanted to bust the Unions and continue his Scab empire by destroying Eastern and growing Continental. The EAL pilots wanted Bush to force them back to work so that they could show that they supported the mechanics strike, but keep the airline running. The president doesn't just make the strikers go back to work, but set up a PEB. ITs a blue ribbon panel that the President appoints to resolve the contract ASAP. Isn't that want everybody wants anyway? A fair contract. Bush 1 turned his back on EAL, hence the term BUSHWACKED. Clinton did what was best for American. He set up a PEB, and the contract was settled. American is still here today. Bush 2 has turned his back on the NWA mechanics. Just what NWA wanted. A chance to bust a union. NWA has got em by the balls. There will be no happy ending on this one.


OK, then why doesn't ALPA show some solidarity with AMFA? If this is a war against labor, wouldn't it be prudent for labor to show solidarity???
 
JoeMerchant said:
OK, then why doesn't ALPA show some solidarity with AMFA? If this is a war against labor, wouldn't it be prudent for labor to show solidarity???
ALPA's charter is not to support "labor," it's to support PILOTS. If ALPA saw this as a way to further the interests of pilots, I feel certain it would. However, it would seem that NWA ALPA feels that this is NOT a battle that pilots would win by engaging in a sympathy strike.


They can't just support every strike there is, regardless of the perceived risk or potential payoff. The priority for NWA ALPA is NWA pilots.




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Because they know they'll wind up just like Eastern. Either NWA will cease operations or it will be the biggest scab airline in history.
 
TonyC said:
ALPA's charter is not to support "labor," it's to support PILOTS. If ALPA saw this as a way to further the interests of pilots, I feel certain it would. However, it would seem that NWA ALPA feels that this is NOT a battle that pilots would win by engaging in a sympathy strike.


They can't just support every strike there is, regardless of the perceived risk or potential payoff. The priority for NWA ALPA is NWA pilots.

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BINGO! The priority for NWA ALPA is NWA pilots The priority for DAL ALPA is DAL pilots, the priority for UAL ALPA is UAL pilots. And the beat goes on..... At least you are honest Tony, ALPA really isn't a trade union, rather it is a very loose association of self centered opportunists who whine when that same self centered opportunity is turned against themselves. What goes around comes around Tony.... maybe just maybe ALPA will learn that someday. I doubt it though.

Joe
10+ year ALPA volunteer who has seen the light....
 
JoeMerchant said:
BINGO! The priority for NWA ALPA is NWA pilots The priority for DAL ALPA is DAL pilots, the priority for UAL ALPA is UAL pilots.
You say that like it's a bad thing!?!? :)





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JoeMerchant said:
BINGO! The priority for NWA ALPA is NWA pilots

Ummm, yeah. That's exactly the way it should be.
 
JoeMerchant said:
In 2000 and 2004, ALPA supported the Democratic candidate and opposed Bush. Ostensibly because Bush would be anti-labor. Now, Bush is allowing a strike to go on that ALPA does not support. Is ALPA "anti-labor"?

IRONIC???

Bush 1 allows the Eastern strike. Bush 2 allows this NWA AMFA strike. Clinton orders the American pilots back to work.

IRONIC????


Excellent observation, objective, devoid of emotional bias and empirical.

GV
 
JoeMerchant said:
But ALPA is??? Shouldn't ALPA be supporting "labor"???

Not at the expense of "pilots." Shutting Northwest down would be pointless.
 

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