More Alaska Furloughs

[sf340flyer]

Turbo and Crunk,

You guys are FULL OF IT!!!!!!!! I heard more crying from you 2 than from a group of overweight mothers when their "Little Princess" didn't win the 5 year old beauty pageant. The COMPANY FURLOUGHED YOU not the Union. I'm sure you would have done a much better job than anyone working in the Union.

AZ, If the new furlough is a direct result of the contract why did the company recall all the FAs to tell them to expect a furlough in 2 months? Actually they were told there would be more furloughs in the fall of '09 than in '08.

 

[turbodriver]

Anyone could do a better job than this MEC. Yes, the company did furlough us but the union could have made sure that our complaints were heard in accordance with the RLA. Would jobs have been saved? Would the company have been forced to recall everyone because of the illegal furlough? We'll never know. Instead, we get sold out for non-rev passes. At least we got the health care, I'll give them at least that much...

ALPA pushing their own agenda to take care of the senior geezers instead of representing everyone makes me sick. ALPA just made my permanent $hit list.

Have fun flying 90 hours a month till you croak. Under this contract, it's the only way there will be recalls.

 

[Wally]

Time to move on

Screw ALPA & Alaska.

So where are you planning on working? Good luck in your new, non-ALPA, non-Alaska and perhaps non-airline career. Your commitment to incessant b!tching and whining is a testament to your character. I have even personally offered you assistance, but you dismissed the offer. Perhaps because you'd rather continue to anonymously wallow in self pity on this board? You need to move on. You will be happier for it.

Good luck.

 

[BeCareful!]

So where are you planning on working? Good luck in your new, non-ALPA, non-Alaska and perhaps non-airline career. Your commitment to incessant b!tching and whining is a testament to your character. I have even personally offered you assistance, but you dismissed the offer. Perhaps because you'd rather continue to anonymously wallow in self pity on this board? You need to move on. You will be happier for it.

Good luck.

Wow, spoken like a true union "brother." You and ALPA are like peas and carrots.

You sign off with "Good luck." Not sure if you've ever heard this, but we pay union dues so we don't have to rely on "good luck."

I wonder if ALPA is involved in funding FI.com. Seems when anyone expresses discontent with ALPA on here they are bi%$# slapped. Anyway, I'm sure the General and Rez, the ambiguously happy dynamic duo, will be on here shortly to finnish the job.

ALPA sucks, and most pilots know this. Why does Prater's secretary make more than an ALPA-represented CRJ900 Captain?

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Turbo and Crunk,

You guys are FULL OF IT!!!!!!!! I heard more crying from you 2 than from a group of overweight mothers when their "Little Princess" didn't win the 5 year old beauty pageant. The COMPANY FURLOUGHED YOU not the Union. I'm sure you would have done a much better job than anyone working in the Union

SF340flyer,

The company furloughed me, and the union, in my opinion, did not represent the interests of the bottom pilots. Yes, I'm pissed. I didn't want to lose my job. I think the union should have done more to fight for furlough mitigation in the old contract and in the new one as well.

I have worked for the ALPA as a Local Chairman. Have you volunteered? I hope so.

I'm pro ALPA, and I'm pro improving ALPA.

 

[andyd]

How about some good ole' blanket party's for those who vsa? I'm not an Alaska guy but I did get more than just a little po'd when I overheard on the employee shuttle at seatac two white haired captains discussing thier boats one minute and the next about how much time they were picking up. Guy's like this disgust me. The baby booming ME generation. I interrupted thier conversation and "innocently" asked how many guys they had on the street still. I was met by silence. You two know who you are and shame on you.

 

[AKMD80GUY]

The Union reps wont tell you to not VSA or to fly only 75 hours. They can't. But common sense would dictate that we all do just that. Unfortunately common sense is in short supply. I think we may furlough in the fall but 80 is a high number IMO. This may be just a way for the company to predict pilot behavior with the increased efficiency's in the contract, to see how low they can staff and still fly schedule.

 

[Green Banana]

Why does Prater's secretary make more than an ALPA-represented CRJ900 Captain?

The difference is that Prater's secretary has proven she will walk off the job if not paid that wage.

 

[pianoman]

The difference is that Prater's secretary has proven she will walk off the job if not paid that wage.

Truer words were never spoken. Until pilots prove that they will walk away from substandard conditions and pay, it's not going to get better.

 

[kg911]

Anybody heard if there is going to be another early retirement package presented as a way to mitigate furloughs? I had heard it's in the works, just no confirmation.

 

[av8instyle]

I'd just like everyone to have a quick re-read...for old time's sake:
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=122653

 

[Green Banana]

Wow, that helps.....

 

[QCappy]

I'd just like everyone to have a quick re-read...for old time's sake:
http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=122653

What's your point? That you were right? Time will tell. Don't gloat yet, we haven't even implemented the contract. Let's see....3% of 1395 is 42.

 

[av8instyle]

What's your point? That you were right? Time will tell. Don't gloat yet, we haven't even implemented the contract. Let's see....3% of 1395 is 42.

No gloating here. I am not happy about this new contract...obviously...just pointing out that I made several statements that should have highlighted to people how it is possible that this contract would screw everyone that is not a decent line holding captain. I'm not claiming to have any sort or crystal ball, but I'll be honest I don't believe it was necessary. This contract has obvious efficiencies in it that make the downgrade and furlough possibilities pretty obvious. The ink is barely even dry. I think it is painfully obvious who this contract was written for.

 

[av8instyle]

Wow, that helps.....

Too little, too late apparently. But thanks for noticing, banana.