Miami Air

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I've got more time on a few of Miami Airs flight attendants than I have fixed wing flight time. And that was just in an 8 week period at the Homestead Suites during school at Aero Service about 4 years ago.

Ho's, Ho's and more Ho's.

lol

Nobody cares you bloward

 

[TommyG]

I found fly91's insight very enlightening.

 

[ksu_aviator]

KSU, you can spin it however you want, however that is a training contract that was labled unenforceable by a judge. Cut and dry. By the way, I and a couple others have worked for Miami Air, they never came after us and we broke the "training contract", if it is so air tight, why did they not pursue us? Because we had legal representation and that scared them. So I know from direct experience.

Believe what ever you want. All you have is anectdotal evidence. Miami Air's actions do not equal a legal opinion authored by a legal expert in a noted law journal. Why didn't Miami Air come after you? There are a multitude of reasons from the cost v benefit to the validity of their contract. However, just because Miami Air wasn't interested in spending that much money or their contract was too weak to enforce doesn't mean every training contract in the US is invalid.

 

[ContractFlyer]

Miami Air could be hiring for the Kona Shuttle which is operated by Kaiser Air in OAK. Pilots on the Kona Shuttle get an additional pay check from Kaiser....that is if Kaiser hires you!!! Same deal with the kaiser flight attendants, they get the Miami Air salary and then Kaiser ups it to $350 per day! Guess the unions have not caught on yet! I know a few folks at Kaiser and this appears to be accurate....it only works if Kaiser hires you!

 

[Hugh Johnson]

KSU, you can spin it however you want, however that is a training contract that was labled unenforceable by a judge. Cut and dry. By the way, I and a couple others have worked for Miami Air, they never came after us and we broke the "training contract", if it is so air tight, why did they not pursue us? Because we had legal representation and that scared them. So I know from direct experience.

I like how you brag about breaking a contract. You must be a great man.

 

[Moonshiner]

If you thought the contract was invalid, you should not have signed it. You should not have worked there. By signing, then breaking the terms you went back on your word. You dishonored yourself.

 

[Metro752]

lol...

 

[boomlrd]

yes, i am dishonored

 

[filejw]

FYI in the mid 90's I was on the interview panel at my airline. One applicant had short stay at a non-sch and i asked him about the reason for leaving. He had valid reason but the other guy i was working with asked him about the training contract as he knew this company had one. The interviewee gave a lame excuse that basically said i blew them off and that was it.....never had a chance.

 

[Flex-ible]

KSU, you can spin it however you want, however that is a training contract that was labled unenforceable by a judge. Cut and dry. By the way, I and a couple others have worked for Miami Air, they never came after us and we broke the "training contract", if it is so air tight, why did they not pursue us? Because we had legal representation and that scared them. So I know from direct experience.

Not so cut and dried. The judge ruled in favor of Flexjet on something like 12 of 13 claims. The only claim on which the pilot won was the claim that he didn't actually get the type rating he was supposed to reimburse they for. Since he didn't have the type, he didn't have to pay. He also lost his countersuit and ate his $70k in attorney's fees.

Flexjet fixed the situation. I got my PIC type on my initial checkride.

 

[BigFlyr]

MIA is always looking for pilots. We hire small groups at a time...Classes of 4 to 6 is the norm. We had a slow summer but as it turns out we're going for another record year. As previously posted, the training program is a very steep learning curve if you're not already 737 typed, but they will give you a great opportuninty. F/O pay is nothing to write home about but if you make Captain 3-5 years down the road, you pay will virtually tripple in short order... We are CASS approved and have several agreements with scheduled airlines, for those that wish to commute but you have to be able to sit STBY when required so a crash pad in the MIA area would be a must. As far as the training contract is concerned, 3 years will go by in a flash if you can live on the F/O pay. No money out of pocket for training... Good luck!

 

[27 driver]

MIA is always looking for pilots. We hire small groups at a time...Classes of 4 to 6 is the norm. We had a slow summer but as it turns out we're going for another record year. As previously posted, the training program is a very steep learning curve if you're not already 737 typed, but they will give you a great opportuninty. F/O pay is nothing to write home about but if you make Captain 3-5 years down the road, you pay will virtually tripple in short order... We are CASS approved and have several agreements with scheduled airlines, for those that wish to commute but you have to be able to sit STBY when required so a crash pad in the MIA area would be a must. As far as the training contract is concerned, 3 years will go by in a flash if you can live on the F/O pay. No money out of pocket for training... Good luck!

Not completely true. You only recieve a per diem during the first month or so of training. Not hardly enough to live on. You will have to pay for the crash pad or hotel. I would say that upgrades are closer to 5 years or more. There are several PFO's there that will never upgrade. Most if not all the captains there are not going anywhere. This company will not grow fast. They are very conservative and methodical. In my opinion this is a great company to start your career, not a career company. Just my opinion. It was not a very hard training program. You have tons of time in ground school and something like 11 sims before you checkride. Unless things have changed since I left ground school is more of a self study program. At least 8 hrs a day in class, which was mostly the instructor reading from the manual. The oral and checkride was more than fair. If you can't get through with that you don't need to be there. Miami Air is a great company with a small family atmosphere. All of upper management still fly line trips and are great guys to fly with. (with the exception of 1 or 2) You will get a lot of experience, but you have to be able to survive on the pay.

 

[jws717]

How is the quality of life? What does a normal month look like, as far a days off and trip length. vacation time?

 

[Way2Broke]

Competitive or no?

737 typed, 3500 TT, 500 PIC ME Turbine, 2400 ME, with one additional type rating. No time in type on the 737.

Thanks.

 

[JudgeSmails218]

Competitive or no?

737 typed, 3500 TT, 500 PIC ME Turbine, 2400 ME, with one additional type rating. No time in type on the 737.

Thanks.

Living in Miami would be a major plus as well.