Mexican Airlines' Pilots

[Avpilot]

Anyone know where to find pay rates and perks information for pilots of various Mexican carriers like AeroMexico, etc.? I've heard 2 extremes...that they're very well paid when you consider the cost of living, etc. and that they're not very well paid. Thanks.

Tim

 

[400ADude]

Anyone know where to find pay rates and perks information for pilots of various Mexican carriers like AeroMexico, etc.? I've heard 2 extremes...that they're very well paid when you consider the cost of living, etc. and that they're not very well paid. Thanks.

Tim

PM 737pylt, I believe he worked down there before he flowed thru to Delta. Delta use to have a flow thru with several of the mexican carriers back in the 90's.

 

[chimichanga]

One of the perks is that anytime you land at a major American airport, the ground controller will say "OK, everybody stop where you are. AeroMexico, taxi to your gate, any way you can."

 

[jimcav]

PM 737pylt, I believe he worked down there before he flowed thru to Delta. Delta use to have a flow thru with several of the mexican carriers back in the 90's.

I'd take his career over yours. Who did you say you work for again? Oh yeah you're one of those guys.

 

[skiandsurf]

the ground controller will say "OK, everybody stop where you are. AeroMexico, taxi to your gate, any way you can."

"Royer"

 

[Green]

One of the perks is that anytime you land at a major American airport, the ground controller will say "OK, everybody stop where you are. AeroMexico, taxi to your gate, any way you can."

I've seen and heard AeroMexico hundreds of times on the ground at various major airports and never once have I heard the scenario you described. Seems to me like you're full of sheeite....

 

[Trogdor]

No, I've seen it, I'd say its SOP for the controllers in DEN.

 

[PA31Driver]

"Royer"

:laugh:

 

[800Dog]

One of the perks is that anytime you land at a major American airport, the ground controller will say "OK, everybody stop where you are. AeroMexico, taxi to your gate, any way you can."

How many foreign languages do you speak?

 

[canyonblue]

How many foreign languages do you speak?

Ore-may han-tay ou-yay.

 

[Aerosurfer]

Ore-may han-tay ou-yay.

Timing and Placement.... Thinking Mans Humor.... very Nice

 

[MEXICANFLYBOY]

I'd take his career over yours. Who did you say you work for again? Oh yeah you're one of those guys.

that's right! taking over little by little of what was our! hehehe reproducing like rabbits! ehhee

 

[MEXICANFLYBOY]

well

to be honest, they get about $5,000 USD as an FO, and Capitanes, about $9,000. I think they still get pay in dollars, not PESO! hehe other wise that will be like $500 USD a month!

 

[Avpilot]

That's very hard to believe. I have spent a lot of time in Mexico...not in Cancun or Monterey, but small town back country mexico. I have several friends there and have a general feel for pay rates, etc. For example, a systems engineer with a 4 year degree makes about $3000 USD a month and culturally, that is below the status of a major airline pilot. Whatever you say though man.

Now, back to the racial bashing that was going on I guess.

 

[atlcrashpad]

Day pays you Feefteen peso's and a bottle of TeKillya.... El Bouyyyyyyyyyyo....

Siesta time.....

 

[Green]

to be honest, they get about $5,000 USD as an FO, and Capitanes, about $9,000. I think they still get pay in dollars, not PESO! hehe other wise that will be like $500 USD a month!

So basically they pay about what a United, NWA, DAl, JBlue, or AAA pilot makes on similar equipment yet the cost of living is maybe a third what it is up here. If I was a mexican working for AeroMexico I'd be worrying about the possiblility of a bunch of Gringo ho's coming down and lowering the bar in order to get into a shiny jet....lol......

 

[freightdogfred]

One of the perks is that anytime you land at a major American airport, the ground controller will say "OK, everybody stop where you are. AeroMexico, taxi to your gate, any way you can."

You're a funny guy, but I'd bet you've never flown into Guadalajara, Monterey, Chihuaha or hand-flown the Mateo5 arrival Rnwy5R into Mexico city because if you had, you wouldn't make fun of those Mexican pilots or their accents. The controllers down there won't spoon-feed you on to final, and the further south you go the worse it gets. Try it sometime, but make sure you know how to shoot a DME-ARC approach before you go. Also pay attention to the MSA, cause ya ain't in Kansas anymore.

 

[viper548]

One of the perks is that anytime you land at a major American airport, the ground controller will say "OK, everybody stop where you are. AeroMexico, taxi to your gate, any way you can."

Their english is better than my spanish

 

[CRJ2008]

You're a funny guy, but I'd bet you've never flown into Guadalajara, Monterey, Chihuaha or hand-flown the Mateo5 arrival Rnwy5R into Mexico city because if you had, you wouldn't make fun of those Mexican pilots or their accents. The controllers down there won't spoon-feed you on to final, and the further south you go the worse it gets. Try it sometime, but make sure you know how to shoot a DME-ARC approach before you go. Also pay attention to the MSA, cause ya ain't in Kansas anymore.

amen!!!!!!!!
you said it like it is

 

[CF34-3B1]

No matter what they get paid, thier FA's put all of ours to shame.

 

[jtrain609]

And how does one apply to these places? Seems like a broken link on Aero Mexico's website.

 

[Spooky 2]

Their english is better than my spanish

Years ago did a night trip into Guadalajara and the controller spoke perfect Engish. It was late enough that while he had cleared us to the gate I picked up the mike and complimented him on his English. His reply; Hey no problem, since I was a gas meter reader in Los Angeles for the last twenty-five years!

 

[vetteracer]

that's right! taking over little by little of what was our! hehehe reproducing like rabbits! ehhee

We stole it fair and square !!!! :>;

 

[SuperFLUF]

And how does one apply to these places? Seems like a broken link on Aero Mexico's website.

It would be my guess that it would be quite difficult to get a work visa for Mexico. Its a one way street for jobs and immigration. Northbound only.

I chatted with an AeroCalifornia (are they even still in business?) DC9 FO about 5 years ago on the ramp in Guadalajara. He was asking how to apply at CAL becuase he was making $16/hr in his 3rd year. Obviously not the same status as Mexicana or AeroMexico but even if they make double or triple that's still no bueno.

 

[Thedude]

You're a funny guy, but I'd bet you've never flown into Guadalajara, Monterey, Chihuaha or hand-flown the Mateo5 arrival Rnwy5R into Mexico city because if you had, you wouldn't make fun of those Mexican pilots or their accents. The controllers down there won't spoon-feed you on to final, and the further south you go the worse it gets. Try it sometime, but make sure you know how to shoot a DME-ARC approach before you go. Also pay attention to the MSA, cause ya ain't in Kansas anymore.

I for one, can say that I have done all that.....basically Mexican ATC sucks and the controllers in sub-Sahara Africa can be better tha Mexico

 

[doh]

How many foreign languages do you speak?

Two, how many do you speak? And what relevance does it have?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Mexico has modern ATC. You don't know what bad ATC is.

 

[800Dog]

Two, how many do you speak? And what relevance does it have?

Three, and your asking that question proves you are indeed an idiot.

 

[Panda]

And how does one apply to these places? Seems like a broken link on Aero Mexico's website.

In order to get a Commercial Mexican License or ATP, you have to be a Mexican citizen BY BIRTH. This is by mexican law and it's written on their SCT Regulations (Sector Communicacciones y Transportes) the equivalent of our DOT.

Bottom line, us gringos cannot be employed by a mexican airline.

 

[Vaquero]

Aeromexico F.O. B737 or MD-80 = about avrg. 90 bucks an hour
Something like 5 to 6500 USD a month depending on the month with average 85 hours flown. ( these are take home figures)
Aeromexico 757/767/777 F.O. a little more depending on the amount of trips to Europe or Japan a month, and these figures do not include per diem, compensations, bonuses etc.

Aeromexico CAP. = double these figures.

How I know this, have an old buddy from High School that works there and absolutely no way I can work there as a gringo.

Uhmmm, maybe I can marry Margarita.