Mesaba

[cathal]

Where else do you hear these things? From someone who was told by the person the mediator said it to. So I guess I'm the third person recieving the message. There was also something about yellow monkey 10 o'clock butt, but that didn't seem pertinent.
Thanks for the info on the picture hunt everyone. Gotta go- Homer's about to say someething witty.

 

[T-handle]

The rumormill is back!!!!

Wow, all these new rumors floating around. At least it takes your mind off the contract B.S. for a minute.

Yea what's up with this mediator telling our chief pilot that we're not going to be negotiating into next year?(That means either a strike and/or a new contract) That's a good one. And the other one about XJ receiving 25 CRJs next year? Uh ok. Foley told us that 2 years ago. Well we better have a CRJ training program in place very soon. And oh yea, a new contract would be nice to have, FIRST. And how is NWA planning to circumnavigate the scope clause on RJs since 9E is receiving them through the end of next year?? And what does ACA cancelling CRJ orders have to do with us? Bombardier still has orders comin out of their a$$ they are barely keeping up with the demand.

Ok, here's a good rumor surfacing. And this supposedly comes a Mesaba station up north. An employee who knows people at the Star Trib and Pioneer Press apparently was leaked some "off the record" info about NWA in the process of negotiating (or having already negotiated) a huge RJ deal with Embraer, but they have yet to disclose this information pubicly til the final numbers are crunched and/or XJ gets our pilot contract settled. Remember a rumor is a rumor, but we'll see how this one pans out.

You know notice MAIR's stock going up in the recent weeks? Coincidence, summer flying, or what?? I haven't seen it above 6.50 in ages......

 

[cathal]

yep, they're all rumors. I won't believe any it until I see it either, but you've got to admit that they have to get us done and growing before the others start negotiating so they have something to hold over their heads. And, seeing as there isn't a single one of us willing to get less than the better of Comair or Air Wisconsin, things can only be looking up, whether or not we have to strike. Which I'd be all to happy to do.

 

[DoinTime]

NWA and 9E are about to enter negotiations.

What exactly are we negotiating? We have a brand new service contract that was signed last year and runs through Feb 29, 2012 for a minimum of 95 CRJ's. This contract can be extended for five years at the discresion of Pinnacle airlines. All 95 CRJ's are to be delivered by Dec 31, 2004.

 

[avrodriver]

Come on think a little harder than that Dointime....I think they are referring to your pilot contract which we all know is theoritically between you and you mgmt, but really is run by the great OZ Northwest. On the flip side though I think they are jumping the gun, why would you guys think they are about to enter negotiations??? I think it goes till 2005 although DT would be the one to know. Why would they be anxious to start negotiations??? People currently working at Mesaba of all people know that there is no advantage to mgmt initiating negotiations early........drrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaag it out, it's the lastest craze...ask Skyway, ASA, CoEx, etc, I don't think mgmt is pressed for time.............AD

 

[DoinTime]

Why would they be anxious to start negotiations???

There are many reasons MGMT may want to open negotiations early. Our last contract was opened only halfway through the term of the contract that was in effect. NW wanted a long term deal before they placed the CRJs with 9E. XJ did the same thing with concessions and an extention of their current deal to secure the Avro's.

They may want to lock in at the current, post-concessionary, industry average rates or possibly lock in a new deal prior to a public offering of stock. The stock market hates pending labor uncertainty. There are many other reasons that it may be advantageus to secure a new deal early aswell.