Mesaba to take another hit?

[Simon Says]

Thanks Tittyjet!!!!

We are all pumped here at Mesaba. My cell phone just cannot stop ringing. Everybody is amped to shut the doors or make a descent wage.

The more management beats us down the more unified we get.

 

[filejw]

Becareful what you ask for guys.I can see the headlines now NWA voids contract with Mesaba for failure to perform.Will seek new regional carrier for its regional a/c.

 

[tittyjet]

Yeah, and the MESA pilots will be more than happy to fly that struck work, I'm sure.

 

[cl-65link]

Becareful what you ask for guys.I can see the headlines now NWA voids contract with Mesaba for failure to perform.Will seek new regional carrier for its regional a/c.

I hope this isn't indicative of the type of support XJ gets from all red-tail pilots.

 

[filejw]

Support has nothing to do with it.I'v got 26 yrs of watching this management in action and just want to make sure everybody has his eyes wide open.If they can legally do some thing they will.

 

[DTWFO]

Here's another Pinnacle pilot that will support Mesaba till the end. Like has been said so many times before, what is happening to you will happen to us as well. We need to stick together and be united together. That is the only way we can stand up to NWA mngmt with a unified front. They are/will try to drive a wedge between our pilot groups and pit us against each other. Please know that there are so many other Pinnacle pilots like myself that will go to the mat for you as well. I have a feeling that turbulent times are coming for all of us. Good luck to you all and we've got your back!

 

[NEWSOUTH]

Thanks tittyjet, and I think I can speak for all Mesaba pilots when I say we'll have your back when you guys are up to bat. Hopefully someday we'll all get to bat together as one.

Just a serious question for you. Not meant to be flame-bait.

Were you speaking for all Mesaba pilots on 09-26-03, in response to a pilot asking when we might start interviewing again, when you said:

["Yeah...., when the next punk with a check for several thousand dollars steps forward and says that they would gladly BUY a job instead of earn it."]

I'm not a punk, nor did I pay for training. 500 out of 700 pilots did not PFT. I've never met any punks at Pinnacle. Just answer the question without a bunch of emotion. Were you joking? Were you really angry? Say it! SAAAAY IITTTTTT!!!!

 

[swhenry1]

NewSouth, I really hope that you are not with Pinnacle or Mesaba pilot group with this inmature attitude, what you said in response to pft is way out of line for Mesaba current situation. I was in pcl flight ops Friday the 10th of October and Mesab Management announce lay offs for empployee with less than 3 yrs with the company (Gate agents and Ground support). This is absolutely absurd! stay united and stay strong! your pcl brothers support your pilot group 200%. What they are doing to you today they will do the same for pcl tommorow (2005) contract.

 

[Simon Says]

Support has nothing to do with it.I'v got 26 yrs of watching this management in action and just want to make sure everybody has his eyes wide open.If they can legally do some thing they will.

Well, I have nothing to lose here at Mesaba except for five years of senority. I am willing to cut my losses now and move on or just pay us a fair wage. I WILL NOT TAKE CONCESSIONS!

July 9th of this year our senior leadership team took an average of a %25 raise, and there is no way on this Gods green earth I [we] will not concede.

Northwest,
A good contract for us means a little bit easier negotiations for you.

 

[Beantown]

Yeah, and the MESA pilots will be more than happy to fly that struck work, I'm sure.

tittlyjet, Your an idiot. People like you do nothing but help Mgmt beat us all. Pathetic. -Bean

 

[Saabslime]

Newsouth........maybe you need some reading comprehension lessons. That comment was directed at the gulfstream PUNKS and every other pft loser who continue to do a great disservice to this industry. Enough said......any other questions??

 

[8HourPilot]

Hey Guys,
Just a thought, but what is the current repainting schedule? One could think that since some of the Avro's are now almost pink than red, that possibly NWA could pull a few down (5 in Dec) and make it look like they were sitting them in response to the possible strike vote coming up.

Just my $.02

 

[sf3boy]

All the Avros need a million dollar mod in the tail, new paint to match the rest of the fleet and NWA is losing big money by only flying 35 of them at our pathetic pay (compared to Whiskey and any other 90K lbs. a/c ) instead of the allowed 36.

Those are three things that point to either getting rid of the planes for good OR take a few off line to get fixed under the guise of spooking us into a low ball contract.

 

[727RedTails]

Everyone on this board seems to think this announcement was to threaten the pilots at XJ. IMO it has nothing let me repeat that nothing to do with the negotiations at XJ. NWA management could care less about the negotiations. All they care about is the good deal BAe gave them to operate the AVROs is over and they can't make money on them. Even if the pilots worked for free! So they are as good as gone no matter what. Look this is not something I want for the pilots at Mesaba its just economics and as we know NWA is all about saving as much money as possible.

 

[Saabslime]

its just economics and as we know NWA is all about saving as much money as possible.

Exactly how much money are they going to be saving on the penalties for early lease termination? NWA management trips over dollars to pick up dimes if it means dealing a blow to the union.

 

[727RedTails]

From what I have been told this is NWA's chance to get out of the leases as per their contract with BAe without a termination fee.

 

[NEWSOUTH]

NewSouth, I really hope that you are not with Pinnacle or Mesaba pilot group with this inmature attitude, what you said in response to pft is way out of line for Mesaba current situation. I was in pcl flight ops Friday the 10th of October and Mesab Management announce lay offs for empployee with less than 3 yrs with the company (Gate agents and Ground support). This is absolutely absurd! stay united and stay strong! your pcl brothers support your pilot group 200%. What they are doing to you today they will do the same for pcl tommorow (2005) contract.

I was simply asking the guy to explain himself.
On one thread he calls us PFT punks. On this thread he makes a unity statement about the two pilot groups. I think this is a mature question.
These are the kinds of stones that draw blood.

 

[NEWSOUTH]

Newsouth........maybe you need some reading comprehension lessons. That comment was directed at the gulfstream PUNKS and every other pft loser who continue to do a great disservice to this industry. Enough said......any other questions??

You made no reference to Gulfstream pilots in your post.My reading comprehension is fine. These gulfstream pilots are now Pinnacle pilots. How are you gonna get their support talking about them like that? Just answer the question without all the personal attacks please.