i hope our pilot group remembers that the last contract we signed was a growth contract and allowed for the continued stock piling of cash and holding up bigsky's losses......oh and for very competitive rates for the CRJ. I say the only thing we accpet is industry average for 70 seat pay and 85 seat pay. That will be generous enough! If they give us more or the judge directs us for less, i say f@# them and we all walk, it stime for someone to draw a line at how low we can go!