Mesaba is Hiring

[bri5150]

I would suggest to you that 100k+/yr and 18 days off is hardly "crap" treatment.

And cherry picking your trips from PBS...

 

[Raskal]

I would suggest to you that 100k+/yr and 18 days off is hardly "crap" treatment.

I would suggest otherwise when the job at the regional level is what it is and other avenues are available, however to each his own. When I say treatment, I mean a usable sick policy, a usable retirement and a usable health care package. Not to mention hotels, scheduling and such. I guess we are all willing to draw the line somewhere.

I find money and days off alone don't define nor do they a good career make. The brass ring is not what it once was.

 

[Flyer1015]

Eh, 100k a year and 18 days off is hard to give up.

Right. Ask Comair pilots how the 100k a year and 18 days off is working out for them. A regional is a contract feeder, and that contract mothership can decide to screw you in an instant. Bottom line, get in, get your time, and get OUT of the regional. Mesaba included.

 

[DoinTime]

Also hearing that its likely that there will be fences between properties for a good while anyway as part of the SLI so hiring at Mesaba won't do Pinnacle or Colgan any good. Those pilots will be stuck within their pre-merger group.

Is this rumor or fact? Or, a combination of both? And by those fences you speak of, does this mean pilots can't jump from one carrier to the other until said fence expires?

I didn't present anything as fact but fences are very likely even if they only last until full operational integration is granted from the FAA (this is very very typical). Even by the company's own plans, operational integration is about a year and a half out still. This type of fence restricts pilots from bidding vacancies within any of the other pre-merger groups until all of those pilots have had an opportunity to bid on them. For example, if PCL posts a vacancy for DTW CRJ CA, all pre-merger PCL pilots can bid on that position before anyone from within either the Colgan or Mesaba groups despite their relative ISL number.

A brief review of past arbitrators awards will lead you to this conclusion. Google is your friend if you are looking for that kind of info.

 

[DoinTime]

Pure rumor wait till mid may to get the facts from the arbitrator. It's all speculation till then.

Arbitrated seniority lists have followed a well defined pattern over the past couple of decades. Its hardly speculation to believe that this one will end up with similar terms to the well established precedents.

 

[SEVEN]

Right. Ask Comair pilots how the 100k a year and 18 days off is working out for them. A regional is a contract feeder, and that contract mothership can decide to screw you in an instant. Bottom line, get in, get your time, and get OUT of the regional. Mesaba included.

I agree. But a pilot approaching 50 has to decide if the risk vs. reward is worth the leap to the bottom of an LLC or legacy carrier. For most, the risk is too great to give up pay and QOL and to make up the years of lost wages. If you're 40 or younger, I would say the regional job must be a stepping stone.

 

[Raskal]

I agree. But a pilot approaching 50 has to decide if the risk vs. reward is worth the leap to the bottom of an LLC or legacy carrier. For most, the risk is too great to give up pay and QOL and to make up the years of lost wages. If you're 40 or younger, I would say the regional job must be a stepping stone.

Now that is the issue: what is the cutoff point? I'm not 40, yet, but I'm not that far away that I don't think about it. There's a lot to consider there.

 

[bri5150]

Now that is the issue: what is the cutoff point? I'm not 40, yet, but I'm not that far away that I don't think about it. There's a lot to consider there.

I am not close to that decision yet, but at 40, you still have 25 years left. GO!! I would even consider it at 50. I think I am in the minority though. At that point, company will be matching 125% 401k as well. That is tough to give up.

 

[johnpeace]

I am not close to that decision yet, but at 40, you still have 25 years left. GO!! I would even consider it at 50. I think I am in the minority though. At that point, company will be matching 125% 401k as well. That is tough to give up.

Not to mention the QOL issues...try giving up weekends off and go to leaving your 3 kids to go sit reserve at Kennedy every weekend.

Bummer.

 

[xjgearbtch]

Arbitrated seniority lists have followed a well defined pattern over the past couple of decades. Its hardly speculation to believe that this one will end up with similar terms to the well established precedents.

Nevermind

 

[bri5150]

All new hires will be LGA Saab FO according to the award today.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

How in the world could they possibly need more Saab FOs in LGA? Even with several bailing to go back to traditional bases, once all the recalls are done training that seems like WAAAYYY too many pilots there.